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Elizah Huge said:
Why? That’s a minuscule price to move up compared to what others have said.
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who will be there at 5 that definitely won't be there at 9?
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is that guy better than who you might be able get at 9?

iow, you have a bunch of people saying anthony black could be the guy at 5. if ausar or cam slips to 9, is anthony black better than cam and/or ausar?
maybe jarace is the guy at 5 and anthony black or JHS slips to 9. is jarace better than anthony black? or cam? or ausar? or JHS?

i'm not giving up an extra first to take a guy who might be there at 9 regardless or to take a lesser player. now, if the jazz have a guy they love and they are sure they won't be there at 9, that's fair - they need to do what they feel is best. but in my own humble opinion, it's a losing move just based on the players involved, how close they are in talent and potential and how fluid and unpredictable the draft is.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
who will be there at 5 that definitely won't be there at 9?
and
is that guy better than who you might be able get at 9?

iow, you have a bunch of people saying anthony black could be the guy at 5. if ausar or cam slips to 9, is anthony black better than cam and/or ausar?
maybe jarace is the guy at 5 and anthony black slips to 9. is jarace better than anthony black? or cam? or ausar?
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You get your choice of Black/Jarace/Cam there. Is getting your choice of your guy better than staying at 9 and taking leftovers? Unequivocally yes.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
who will be there at 5 that definitely won't be there at 9?
and
is that guy better than who you might be able get at 9?

iow, you have a bunch of people saying anthony black could be the guy at 5. if ausar or cam slips to 9, is anthony black better than cam and/or ausar?
maybe jarace is the guy at 5 and anthony black slips to 9. is jarace better than anthony black? or cam? or ausar?

i'm not giving up an extra first to take a guy who might be there at 9 anyway or to take a lesser player. now, if the jazz have a guy they love and they are sure they won't be there at 9, that's fair - they need to do what they feel is best. but in my own humble opinion, it's a losing move just based on the players involved.
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Somewhat agree but if there is one specific guy that Ainge and Co. want, then do whatever needs to be done to get him.
 
Elizah Huge said:
How could we take a lesser player at 5 than what would be available at 9? That makes zero sense.
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if the guy you take at 5 turns out to be worse than the guy you would have taken at 9. not rocket science. it happens in every draft where guys taken later are better than guys taken earlier.
 
stitches said:
Because it's less likely to face pushback, but it would accomplish the same thing if a team doesn't have his medicals... if you are the GM or medical staff of say... the Pacers... and you don't get his medicals... and 2 days before the draft a respected journalist floats not just that there is a "yellow flag" on his medicals, but that teams are actually going to pass on him because of said "yellow flag", then what would you think? Would you care if the report says "yellow" or "red" flag when he seemingly is dropping(4, 5 and 6 pass on him)? How would you know if he's dropping because of said "yellow flag" that others might know details about but you don't or because HOU, Detroit and Orlando just liked purely basketball wise 2 other prospects better?

And now the Pacers pass on him too(because of the yellow flag report that you don't know anything about)... and Washington takes someone else too... Now you are the Jazz and you too don't have his medicals... what would you do? Is he dropping because of a real medical concern or because a 2-3 teams didn't have his medicals and preferred to go safer route?
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If you're going to drop a fake health concern, you shouldn't use a term that downplays the health concern. I don't think it accomplishes the same thing, it's just a worse and less effective way to fake out a team than saying he has a red flag. That's literally the purpose of saying yellow flag versus red flag. Like if you were trying to do the same thing with a "bad interview"....I would just say he was bad in interviews instead of saying he was mediocre in interviews to try to reverse psychology them into something worse. Like I said, it's not that serious but it's funny that this is being spun into some 200 iq attempt lol. If Cam does fall to #9, I will not assume it's because DA is a media mastermind and manipulated the teams above. I will assume that the reason he fell is because of the reported reasons he fell.

Chances are Wasserman made up the term himself. Reality is he got reports that there were mild concerns and used his own creativity to come up with that term lol.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
if the guy you take at 5 turns out to be worse than the guy you would have taken at 9. not rocket science. it happens in every draft where guys taken later are better than guys taken earlier.
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Every one of these guys is nothing but potential. You create a process to help you identify which ones you think are most likely to be successful and then you should aggressively try to acquire them. There’s no way of knowing down the line that the guy you draft (or trade is for) is going to be better or worse than another. You just have to trust your people and your process to help you make the best decisions. Danny Ainge is one of the best executives in the league - maybe even over the past two decades. I haven’t loved every decision he’s made. . . but he has clearly been right much more than he’s been wrong.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
if the guy you take at 5 turns out to be worse than the guy you would have taken at 9. not rocket science. it happens in every draft where guys taken later are better than guys taken earlier.
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So that should stop teams from trading up to get their guy? What in the **** kind of logic is that?
 
Looks it will be Jarace or Black at 5. I think the Wiz are putting out the medical false flag on Cam, because if Utah believes Cam will be there at 9 then there is no reason to trade up for a good player like Black or Jarace. This tells me that the Jazz probably rate Black very high.
 
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