THT 20 LB Weight Loss

[fishonjazz]

Post-ASB he shot 39% from 3 on C&S with 2 attempts per game.

Pre-ASB he shot 25% on 1.5 per game.

In January he shot 39% on C&S as well, and 41% in February.

And it's all just taking what the defense gives him on C&S. It's also probably a decent argument as to why you dont want him to be the starting PG because his OTD 3pt shooting is putrid.

Thats better than i expected. Thanks for the info.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'll also add this: he likely lost 10 lbs from when we last saw him if the 20 lbs figure was obtained from training camp/start of season weigh in to now.

He most likely lost 10 lbs during the season and then lost another 10 during the off-season,. Losing 20 lbs over the last 2.5 months would be pretty wild for someone who wasnt that overweight.

 

[fishonjazz]

To be fair, 70 lbs of muscle would slow almost anyone down.

Nice
lol

 

[NUMBERICA]

There's a scenario where THT's shot is actually more off because the fine motor movements aren't calibrated to his new body. But I'm not saying that's likely, and I would generally be on the team that thinks you just perform better all-around when you're in better shape (in part because it reflects a certain level of focus and commitment that generally will aid anyone in things they do, especially physical things).

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think we are all really overanalyzing the weight loss if we are talking about the jump shot. This isnt that drastic of a change. It's not like he is going from some out of shape slob to a distance runner.

Better conditioning, slightly quicker first step, easier time elevating, quicker feet, those are the hopes.

I also dont think we should worry about him losing too much, he's still a beefier built guy. Dude has the natural waist of a brick house. Which I think is K's overall point, he's a guy who can comfortably hold weight and still be very athletic, so weight loss might not necessarily be a great move. It will be cool to see though, it's probably the first time in his career where he's intentionally lost weight so it will be a newer experience.

 

[KqWIN]

I'm not sure how you can separate things this distinctly lol. Its really not how things work. For example... Kyle Korver's shooting and athletic training was intertwined because one affects the other. And you just presented a great example of weight loss and improvement yourself. While it may not affect Key's open three point shots... he is a better shooter with more separation... you get more separation when you are faster... the shots might be layups or middies... but that separation also helps him have bigger passing lanes and would open them up earlier... all the stuff is connected and I would actually be shocked if improvement in the body didn't improve his performance of certain skills. Stand still three pointers? Maybe or maybe not... but distilling it down to body improvement not helping that one particular thing... kinda silly.


I wonder if you play or if you played in the past... its exaggerated because I'm not an nba athlete and am older but the difference between my game at 205 and 225 is DRAMATIC. Its amazing how much my decision making and shot making improve when I am able to get to my spots with more ease. I'm sure NBA players the difference is sooooo much smaller but its all connected. If it wasn't his number 1 issue I get it... but if it helps him with all his strengths, will have some impact on most of his other issues, and does not take away from anything else he has or is working on... well I think that is more than a "meh". To each their own.

Well, after hearing your account of weight loss I'm convinced now.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think we are all really overanalyzing the weight loss if we are talking about the jump shot. This isnt that drastic of a change. It's not like he is going from some out of shape slob to a distance runner.

Better conditioning, slightly quicker first step, easier time elevating, quicker feet, those are the hopes.

I also dont think we should worry about him losing too much, he's still a beefier built guy. Dude has the natural waist of a brick house. Which I think is K's overall point, he's a guy who can comfortably hold weight and still be very athletic, so weight loss might not necessarily be a great move. It will be cool to see though, it's probably the first time in his career where he's intentionally lost weight so it will be a newer experience.

Yeah its not exclusively about the jump shot. Its about a poster deciding something that is pretty relevant is "meh". I'm simply trying to shed some light on how it could affect a bunch of other things. If you don't think having a better quick step will help someone be a better decision maker or make more shots... well then I guess it doesn't matter. While this isn't a slob getting in shape... the margins in the NBA are thin and gaining an advantage on those margins is going to help... no?

I doubt THT lost any functional strength while losing the weight. Thinking it would hurt him is lol worthy imo. He's not some center leaning on guys in the post. That bad weight ain't doing anything for him and he had plenty of bad weight (for an NBA player anyway).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Well, after hearing your account of weight loss I'm convinced now.

I mean I qualified it a bunch... I simply wondered if you have felt the difference yourself... cuz I have... but go ahead and meh that too. I will go look for a spreadsheet or chart that shows shooting/basketball skill correlation.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah its not exclusively about the jump shot. Its about a poster deciding something that is pretty relevant is "meh". I'm simply trying to shed some light on how it could affect a bunch of other things. If you don't think having a better quick step will help someone be a better decision maker or make more shots... well then I guess it doesn't matter. While this isn't a slob getting in shape... the margins in the NBA are thin and gaining an advantage on those margins is going to help... no?

I doubt THT lost any functional strength while losing the weight. Thinking it would hurt him is lol worthy imo. He's not some center leaning on guys in the post. That bad weight ain't doing anything for him and he had plenty of bad weight (for an NBA player anyway).

I mean, you are losing functional strength if you lose 20 lbs of anything. Acting like like K is saying is lulzy, saying that is equally as lulzy.

A lot of THT's defensive strengths were predicated on his ability to guard up, which his mass definitely helped with.

There's a world where his loss of mass results in him being a worse defender. Yes, there will be a tradeoff to where he is probably quicker, but it isnt a guaranteed equal tradeoff and he might be an even worse screen navigator at a lighter weight.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

For the record, I'm in the camp that this is 99% likely a good thing. But there are always tradeoffs.

And it will not have any affect on his jumper.

 

[NUMBERICA]

And it will not have any affect on his jumper.

It will have any affect on his jumper. Probably not much. Probably impossible to counterfactualize or measure.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean, you are losing functional strength if you lose 20 lbs of anything. Acting like like K is saying is lulzy, saying that is equally as lulzy.

A lot of THT's defensive strengths were predicated on his ability to guard up, which his mass definitely helped with.

There's a world where his loss of mass results in him being a worse defender. Yes, there will be a tradeoff to where he is probably quicker, but it isnt a guaranteed equal tradeoff and he might be an even worse screen navigator at a lighter weight.

Lol