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framer said:
My memory might be faulty, but don't teams straight up target Bane on defense? I don't think of him as a plus defender at all. He's got the T-rex arms which is why he fell in the draft.
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Memphis has been a better defensive team with him on the court for the last two seasons. No idea how much noise is in that (like playing with JJJ more minutes than not) but I think he is generally regarded as a JJ Redick esque defender, but with some better physical traits. Going to play good team defense and generally be in the right spots and has enough strength/movement ability to not be a liability.
HermanG said:
Since 9th of February both played around same amount of minutes and possessions. Dunn had 33% less FGA than THT at that period with 10% less minutes played. So you are saying the difference in "very limited attempts" and "making legitimate plays" (your words) is 33%.... or less than 5 shots per game.

Also btw, you are essentiallly rewarding THT for missed shots here since the FGM was 5.3 (Dunn) vs 6.3 (THT), so only marginally different.
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I'm pretty sure you're the person I argued with this about a month ago and you claimed advanced stats favored Dunn until I proved you wrong, but idk, maybe I'm misremembering which delusional THT hater I was arguing with.
 
HermanG said:
Since 9th of February both played around same amount of minutes and possessions. Dunn had 33% less FGA than THT at that period with 10% less minutes played. So you are saying the difference in "very limited attempts" and "making legitimate plays" (your words) is 33%.... or less than 5 shots per game.

Also btw, you are essentiallly rewarding THT for missed shots here since the FGM was 5.3 (Dunn) vs 6.3 (THT), so only marginally different.
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And also, as I pointed out to you when you tried to make these dumbass arguments, Dunn played in the final 3 games of the season and THT did not. Those would have probably been 40-10-10 games for THT with how easy they were.
 
And I know THT is likely gone if we get Herro, which will suck, but ultimately I sign off on.

Hope we are able to keep him so he can form a dynamic backcourt with him/Herro, but you got to give up good stuff to get good stuff.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Memphis has been a better defensive team with him on the court for the last two seasons. No idea how much noise is in that (like playing with JJJ more minutes than not) but I think he is generally regarded as a JJ Redick esque defender, but with some better physical traits. Going to play good team defense and generally be in the right spots and has enough strength/movement ability to not be a liability.

I'm pretty sure you're the person I argued with this about a month ago and you claimed advanced stats favored Dunn until I proved you wrong, but idk, maybe I'm misremembering which delusional THT hater I was arguing with.
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Dunn beats him clearly in EFG%, TS%, AST/TO, TO ratio, Ast Ratio, PIE, PER etc... AST% and REB% are pretty much drawn. I dont know how the other advanced individual stats work since I dont know how to filter them by specific time period (maybe need subs to those sites), but I would bet Dunn wins them as well since he is just a better player.

Only team based advanced stats (like nba.com's ORtg and DRtg) are in favor of THT, which is explained by the fact that he played with better players.

Top 5 player lineup in minutes for THT
147 minutes with K. Olynyk - L. Markkanen - T. Horton-Tucker - O. Agbaji - W. Kessler

Top 5 player lineup in minutes for Dunn
31 minutes with K. Olynyk - K. Dunn - U. Azubuike - L. Samanic - O. Agbaji

I cant remember arguing with you about this but if you ever beat me in an argument I must have been in a burning fever or some other seriously handicapped state of mind so that excuses me from remembering such event.
 
I will say this:

  • Boston has access to all their picks and a top 4 GSW protected pick
  • Robert Williams is a great fit with their current team as a young upcoming center who is on a great contract for the next 3 seasons
  • Jordan Walsh is interesting as a prospect after having a much better than anticipated SL.
Outside of that, how do you find a place for Brogdon? Would the Celtics include Horford to a 3rd team?
 
HermanG said:
Dunn beats him clearly in EFG%, TS%, AST/TO, TO ratio, Ast Ratio, PIE, PER etc... AST% and REB% are pretty much drawn. I dont know how the other advanced individual stats work since I dont know how to filter them by specific time period (maybe need subs to those sites), but I would bet Dunn wins them as well since he is just a better player.

Only team based advanced stats (like nba.com's ORtg and DRtg) are in favor of THT, which is explained by the fact that he played with better players.

Top 5 player lineup in minutes for THT
147 minutes with K. Olynyk - L. Markkanen - T. Horton-Tucker - O. Agbaji - W. Kessler

Top 5 player lineup in minutes for Dunn
31 minutes with K. Olynyk - K. Dunn - U. Azubuike - L. Samanic - O. Agbaji

I cant remember arguing with you about this but if you ever beat me in an argument I must have been in a burning fever or some other seriously handicapped state of mind so that excuses me from remembering such event.
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Again there is no reason to rehash this as I already proved you wrong about a month ago on this. You arent a serious person bringing up PER.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Again there is no reason to rehash this as I already proved you wrong about a month ago on this. You arent a serious person bringing up PER.
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Again that last sentence proves exactly who you are. Diverting attention away from your own flaws by harping on 1 small detail in a post.

Only place where you have ever proven me wrong is in your head., where you win all your arguments 100% of the time.

If any other JFC poster thinks that Cy has proven me wrong at any point in time please say so. I will eat my crow if there was an instance where that actually has happened.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
And also, as I pointed out to you when you tried to make these dumbass arguments, Dunn played in the final 3 games of the season and THT did not. Those would have probably been 40-10-10 games for THT with how easy they were.
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Lmao I didnt make any arguments in that post. I only pointed to some concrete stats related to your arguments. So if there were dumbass arguments in that post they were your own. I even quoted them to highlight they are your words, not mine.

Also throwing out THT 40-10-10 statlines seems really "objective" for a guy who just few weeks ago self-proclaimed himself as the most objective poster in the forum.

Good job not embarassing yourself... mr Objectivity.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:

Boston is somehow the betting favorite? (I guess this is also the Damian Lillard trade thread)
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That article and headline are both terribly written tbh, it literally says
Per BetOnline, excluding the Miami Heat, the Boston Celtics are frontrunners
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So if you exclude the actual front runners, then they’re the front runners? Incredibly misleading by that website
 
HermanG said:
Again that last sentence proves exactly who you are. Diverting attention away from your own flaws by harping on 1 small detail in a post.

Only place where you have ever proven me wrong is in your head., where you win all your arguments 100% of the time.

If any other JFC poster thinks that Cy has proven me wrong at any point in time please say so. I will eat my crow if there was an instance where that actually has happened.
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Brother because I'm not going to rehash this dumbass argument with you. Go back and refresh yourself.
 
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