gomretat
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Every year they say it and every year it proves to be true with the vast majority of rookies. And yet fans are still sure the rooks need lots of minutes.
John Collins Hype & Appreciation Thread
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Unfortunately true. There are roughly 4-7 guys who range from perennial quality starters to superstars in each draft, and then 4-7 more guys who have a long NBA career as solid to good role players.
The other 46-52 player drafted turn into trash in one way or another.
However fans want to see the young guys because they dont get access to practices and dont always trust their coaches either.
framer
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The greatest thing about Collins is that he is the kind of player you should probably give up some of our assets for. And we didn't, unless you count that late 2nd rounder as an asset.
Whatever people thought about that Laker's pick trade, getting back Collins for Gay and the extra salary slot we created by dumping salary more than put us back into the black.
Whatever people thought about that Laker's pick trade, getting back Collins for Gay and the extra salary slot we created by dumping salary more than put us back into the black.
I'm not there yet....
It does seem like him and Sexton have some chemistry though. They've connected on a few really nice plays so far.
It does seem like him and Sexton have some chemistry though. They've connected on a few really nice plays so far.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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He had zero assists against the Magic. I also think his 49% shooting should be far better than it is for someone playing his position.
An unbelievably bad trade by DA.
An unbelievably bad trade by DA.
Park Bites
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I am a am big fan. My biggest concern is he plays the same position as our best player.
I do like him as a small ball 5. Then he can play along side our best player ... THT.
I do like him as a small ball 5. Then he can play along side our best player ... THT.
Isaiah 1:13
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It’s a work in progress but I have no doubt that we’ll eventually get there.
Had some concerns coming in, particularly that finger issue. Everything seems fine and he’s exceeded my expectations thus far. Love the fit and the way that he’s fallen in with these guys.
I might have some deep seated resentment if I was a Hawks fan not a Jazz fan.
Tremendous Upside
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Good:
- Beast offensive rebounder
- 3pt shooting (hey, it's improving!)
- Stopped juicing (probably) but can still dunk
- Positive rolemodel for alligator-armed kids
Bad:
- Almost never passes
- Ballhandling is a joke
- Zero chemistry with other bigs so far
- Lazy matador defender
- Beast offensive rebounder
- 3pt shooting (hey, it's improving!)
- Stopped juicing (probably) but can still dunk
- Positive rolemodel for alligator-armed kids
Bad:
- Almost never passes
- Ballhandling is a joke
- Zero chemistry with other bigs so far
- Lazy matador defender
I like Collins.
I think he's a solid all around player.
He just doesnt work in a 3 big lineup where one of the bigs is zero skilled.
The Jazz need someone at one of the front-court spots who has some on-ball dynamism.
Unless we just have elite playmakers/shooters at the 1/2, the Collins/Walker/Lauri front-court doesnt have much of a future. We have to upgrade at the 5 or on the wing.
I think he's a solid all around player.
He just doesnt work in a 3 big lineup where one of the bigs is zero skilled.
The Jazz need someone at one of the front-court spots who has some on-ball dynamism.
Unless we just have elite playmakers/shooters at the 1/2, the Collins/Walker/Lauri front-court doesnt have much of a future. We have to upgrade at the 5 or on the wing.