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Red said:
“I have known Rob my whole life,” Card said on Thursday. “He is quiet but the most loving, hardworking, and kind person that I know. But in the past year, he had an acute episode of mental health, and it’s been a struggle.

She said that Robert Card recently began wearing powerful hearing aids to combat hearing loss. Since then, Card said her brother-in-law has been insisting to his family that he can hear people bashing him—including at Just-In-Time Recreation bowling alley and Schemengees Bar and Grill, where he’s accused of gunning down 18 people on Wednesday night.

“He truly believed he was hearing people say things,” she added. “This all just happened within the last few months.”

www.thedailybeast.com

Fam Reveals Suspected Gunman’s Link to Maine Massacre Sites

“He just has to reach out and do the right thing,” Robert Card’s sister-in-law told The Daily Beast.
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This is one of the problems with thinking that good pre-purchase screening for mental health issues is a solution for this type of thing. His mental health issues came on pretty quickly. His identity was meaningfully tied to being a gun guy. He probably held sincere beliefs about the right to own guns. When his mental health crisis started neither he or anyone close to him thought "hey, this is a situation where he needs to be separated from his guns." That's not something pro-2A people think. It probably needs to be.

Several years ago I lost a parent to cancer, shortly after as a result of my emotional (mental health) response I walked out on a very good job. I had several guns. I was depressed. I had a child entering their teen years. I was an avid target shooter. I was a very strong supporter of the 2A. My unemployment caused stress in my relationship and eventually my finances. I sold all of my guns. I told myself that I needed the money since I wasn't working, but I knew that what I really needed was not to have a murder/suicide machine seconds away from me at every emotional moment of my life at that time.

I don't think that's a common response. I think most people maintain the pride that they are responsible gun owners. They know how to handle guns and do it safely. They are one of the good guys with guns.

I've always been responsible with guns. Never more than when I separated myself from them when I was worried that I might become unsafe with them.
 
Sardines said:
This is one of the problems with thinking that good pre-purchase screening for mental health issues is a solution for this type of thing. His mental health issues came on pretty quickly. His identity was meaningfully tied to being a gun guy. He probably held sincere beliefs about the right to own guns. When his mental health crisis started neither he or anyone close to him thought "hey, this is a situation where he needs to be separated from his guns." That's not something pro-2A people think. It probably needs to be.

Several years ago I lost a parent to cancer, shortly after as a result of my emotional (mental health) response I walked out on a very good job. I had several guns. I was depressed. I had a child entering their teen years. I was an avid target shooter. I was a very strong supporter of the 2A. My unemployment caused stress in my relationship and eventually my finances. I sold all of my guns. I told myself that I needed the money since I wasn't working, but I knew that what I really needed was not to have a murder/suicide machine seconds away from me at every emotional moment of my life at that time.

I don't think that's a common response. I think most people maintain the pride that they are responsible gun owners. They know how to handle guns and do it safely. They are one of the good guys with guns.

I've always been responsible with guns. Never more than when I separated myself from them when I was worried that I might become unsafe with them.
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Great post man. Thank you for sharing that. People like you speaking out are what we need regarding changing our gun laws.
 
fishonjazz said:
Robert Card, who's still at large.
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Why are people at large and never at medium or small? Its nothing but fat shaming, as somebody who is typically at 3 extra large I find this deeply offensive and I'm triggered.

anyway thoughts and prayers, they seem to do an awful lot in these situations, certainly more than any meaningful gun control measures.
 
Red said:
“I have known Rob my whole life,” Card said on Thursday. “He is quiet but the most loving, hardworking, and kind person that I know. But in the past year, he had an acute episode of mental health, and it’s been a struggle.

She said that Robert Card recently began wearing powerful hearing aids to combat hearing loss. Since then, Card said her brother-in-law has been insisting to his family that he can hear people bashing him—including at Just-In-Time Recreation bowling alley and Schemengees Bar and Grill, where he’s accused of gunning down 18 people on Wednesday night.

“He truly believed he was hearing people say things,” she added. “This all just happened within the last few months.”

www.thedailybeast.com

Fam Reveals Suspected Gunman’s Link to Maine Massacre Sites

“He just has to reach out and do the right thing,” Robert Card’s sister-in-law told The Daily Beast.
www.thedailybeast.com www.thedailybeast.com
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You know it's becoming clear why humans seem to like pitbulls. We are essentially the same. This same verbiage is employed to explain long-time family pets that suddenly kill the neighbor's kid.
 
Rubashov said:
Why are people at large and never at medium or small? Its nothing but fat shaming, as somebody who is typically at 3 extra large I find this deeply offensive and I'm triggered.

anyway thoughts and prayers, they seem to do an awful lot in these situations, certainly more than any meaningful gun control measures.
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Have you ever seen an American?
 
LogGrad98 said:
You know it's becoming clear why humans seem to like pitbulls. We are essentially the same. This same verbiage is employed to explain long-time family pets that suddenly kill the neighbor's kid.
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Apparently, our default position is violence, and we spend our lives fighting it - and we never know when it will break loose.

This is so depressing.
 
Word is this guy is dead. Killed himself.

I wish the order of operations for these SOBs was a little different.
 
JazzGal said:
Apparently, our default position is violence, and we spend our lives fighting it - and we never know when it will break loose.

This is so depressing.
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We watch lots of movies, action movies mostly glorifying violence.

We play video games, from a young age for long hours into adulthood of which most glorify violence and killing to some degree from cartoonish to extremely graphic.

Our favorite sports are very intense, violent, and year round for the most part.

A decent portion of music glorifies violence, if not that negative sides of relationships and interactions with people.

A large portion of people are on meds with so many different side effects we have no clue what the long term effects will be.

We have constant angry anonymous or non anonymous arguments, posts, rants, videos, blasts online over various things.

Political conversations from the top down to grassroots turn into namecalling, accusations, blaming, swearing, and various other tactics just to win a point.

Basically this country and world is full of emotional violence, verbal violence, hatred, competitiveness, a lack of compromise or listening, drugs prescription and otherwise, and a love of escaping reality by killing something online.

The fact that more and more people snap and kill others when they can’t see reality or think clearly shouldn’t be surprising.

Sure, making guns harder to get sounds nice, but it’s not realistic. There are already so many guns out there that determined people will find a gun.

I don’t own a gun, and if a law change saves even one life or stops one mass shooting Im down. I just don’t see it as stopping more than a few of these. Do it, but we still need to come to the table with something better.

Imo it’s probably something long term and would curb the violence in movies, games, sports, etc. I don’t see it happening though.

People still blame mass shootings on guns. A gun is a tool. Blame it on the people, and help fix people before it gets to the shooting point.

Impossible? I don’t know.
 
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