Game Thread Nov 27, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Pelicans

[GVC]

And they had their starting lineup intact and looking at that lineup, it looks quite good. Good win

CJ McCollum?

 

[Tanktastic]

Trust me when I say that any shooter can go through a cold streak even the best of them. What separates the men from the boys IMO is what they can muster up when the game is on the line in the closing minutes. That’s where Clarkson shines

And what JC mustered was classic JC and almost cost the Jazz the win. Only Simo's dive for the ball saved the game from being tied - because JC STOPPED PLAYING. After his missed shot he just stopped and spectated.

Shots can go in or don't. JC holding the ball for the whole possession and then launching something desperate is another thing. That's just bad decision making that will lead to losses. He definitely doesn't shine, other than as a shot maker. Play your normal offense that has taken you so far and if the pass opens up, even I trust JC to take the 3.

 

[HermanG]

And what JC mustered was classic JC and almost cost the Jazz the win. Only Simo's dive for the ball saved the game from being tied - because JC STOPPED PLAYING. After his missed shot he just stopped and spectated.

Shots can go in or don't. JC holding the ball for the whole possession and then launching something desperate is another thing. That's just bad decision making that will lead to losses. He definitely doesn't shine, other than as a shot maker. Play your normal offense that has taken you so far and if the pass opens up, even I trust JC to take the 3.

Dude that is by design. Clock is your biggest enemy there, and the bigger issue in that is not related to JC but the fact that Hardy doesnt have better "quick to execute" go-to plays than JC iso... at least not with Lauri out.

 

[Tanktastic]

Clock is your biggest enemy there

It isn't. Doing what JC did is. It would better to just let the shot clock hit 0 than do that.

Getting a 5 % shot leading to a fast break is worse than going when the clock's at 8.

 

[fishonjazz]

CJ McCollum?

Good point. Still a good looking starting lineup though

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[Udidthizz]

I counted 4 Kessler blocks that didn’t count because another player fouled the shooter. Those don’t show up in the box score, but did erase potential 3 point plays.

 

[homeytennis]

When is Lauri back?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Meanwhile, in a smoke-filled lounge back in the real 70s.


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[Thee Jazz Fan]

I counted 4 Kessler blocks that didn’t count because another player fouled the shooter. Those don’t show up in the box score, but did erase potential 3 point plays.

Shouldn’t a block count when the player gets fouled by someone else?

 

[Udidthizz]

Shouldn’t a block count when the player gets fouled by someone else?

I guess it doesn't if that foul is judged to have preceded the block. Either that or the box score guy was blind.
But there is an argument to be made that if the offensive player is allowed to finish through a foul (so generally after a foul though he was already in his shooting motion when getting fouled) for a score that will count then a block on that shot should also count.

 

[HermanG]

I guess it doesn't if that foul is judged to have preceded the block. Either that or the box score guy was blind.
But there is an argument to be made that if the offensive player is allowed to finish through a foul (so generally after a foul though he was already in his shooting motion when getting fouled) for a score that will count then a block on that shot should also count.

Missed FGA after a foul are also ignored in the box, thus the blocks are ignored as well.

Plus if you foul while blocking, you should not get credited. Also a foul by someone else than the blocker can often affect a shot making it easier to block.

I guess its just easier to ignore them altogether than have a rule that gives credit for them on some special occasions.

 

[fishonjazz]

The last two posts are a bit contradictory but both are correct.
Well done.

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