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Red said:
What do they know about fascism?
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Red, you think fascism is riding a gold escalator. You've repeated many times that when you saw Trump ride the gold escalator you broke out your color chart to match up the gold colors and knew that Trump was a fascist.

The Gaza Palestinians may be the closest thing we have to actual fascism on the planet today, and you are completely blind to it. Is it the lack of gold escalators that is throwing you? This video on fascism was posted some time ago, and perhaps it was even posted by you. The conclusion was that fascism was about blood and soil.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_98uT1IZs


Blood and soil is the story of Gaza. The concept of the Palestinian people was made up less than 100 years ago, but it was needed for the myth and so Arabs who lived there became “Palestinians”. The soil is the river to the sea. Arabs live all over the region, but to have the blood and soil there had to be specific people and specific land so Arabs and the broader Middle East wouldn’t do.

The kicker is that we even know how Arabs of the region became Palestinians fighting for the river to the sea. It was the Arab leader of Jerusalem who became infatuated with fascism in the 1930 and copied it. Apparently when living in actual Fascist Italy and working with real Nazis, they forgot to tell him to install gold escalators.

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Al-O-Meter said:
Red, you think fascism is riding a gold escalator. You've repeated many times that when you saw Trump ride the gold escalator you broke out your color chart to match up the gold colors and knew that Trump was a fascist.
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Correct, that’s exactly as it happened, not really my fault per se, and I’ll take insight when and where it’s found, and the passage of time certainly has not changed my mind.(But the original KKK may have been the first fascist organization of the modern era:. https://www.nybooks.com/online/2020/06/22/american-fascism-it-has-happened-here/) I have not studied Hamas at all, really, and don’t dispute what you’re saying. But, do believe the way Israel chose to wage the war was wrong. I don’t believe blanket killing of thousands of innocent Palestinian children is justified.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
The Gaza Palestinians may be the closest thing we have to actual fascism on the planet today, and you are completely blind to it. Is it the lack of gold escalators that is throwing you? This video on fascism was posted some time ago, and perhaps it was even posted by you. The conclusion was that fascism was about blood and soil.
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I don’t know why you presume what I know or don’t know. Keep in mind, you identified yourself as a troll a day or two ago, and though I’m not going to block you, I’m not obliged to take you seriously any longer.

That said, yes, fascism is very much about blood and soil. And Trump, skilled fear mongering demagogue that he is, knows that as well as anyone living. His rhetoric has been trending in the direction of “blood and soil”, so it’s good you point that out. He knows exactly what he’s doing, and he knows full well fascist sentiment is a best seller among his base.

No, not my video, I posted this one awhile back in one of the Trump threads….


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XTJNy_OrjE
 
Al-O-Meter said:
The conclusion was that fascism was about blood and soil.
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I’m thinking Trumpified Christian nationalism is one ideological substrate supporting the development of an Americanized fascism. I do believe that is what is happening at this time. I believe fascist movements reflect ideas and beliefs particular to the society in which they arise, so we should try to recognize an Americanized fascism: carrying a cross, wrapped in Old Glory…..

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Red said:
I don’t believe blanket killing of thousands of innocent Palestinian children is justified.
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Okay, but why do you believe there have been "thousands of innocent Palestinian children" killed? The only source reporting those types of numbers is the same source who claimed Israel bombed a hospital killing a thousand women and children only to find out later it was an errant Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that landed in a hospital parking lot where three cars were damaged. Hamas lies about casualties. I'm not suggesting there have been no civilian casualties and an unfortunate portion are children but this fight was started by the Gazans. The fault is theirs alone.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
Perhaps related, here is Ariel Sharon admitting that Israel is an occupier
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You could file that under 'Duh'. The West Bank is under occupation. I don't know when this was recorded but all four settlements listed are in the West Bank. Jenin, Nablus, Ramallah, and Bethlehem are in the West Bank. It was Gaza that had not been under occupation for almost two decades, and it was Gaza that sparked this most recent conflict. It was the area NOT under occupation that is the problem. It was the area NOT under occupation that had the poorer living conditions and poorer prospects.

Two decades ago there was thought that a two state solution might be possible. There were two Palestinian areas: The West Bank and Gaza. Israel embarked on A/B testing. In one area all Jewish settlement were removed, all occupying forces were withdrawn, and the Palestinians were given the opportunity to self rule. In the other area the settlements remained, the occupying forces remained, and the ruling authority remained controlled. The results are in and they are shockingly conclusive. Anyone still advocating for some sort of two state solution is a flat-Earth mouth-breather or simply wants to see more Jews killed.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
In one area all Jewish settlement were removed, all occupying forces were withdrawn, and the Palestinians were given the opportunity to self rule.
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The Gazans were not allowed a navy nor an air force, and were under constant blockade. You might as well say the CSA was given the opportunity to self-rule by the Union forces.
 
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