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Handlogten's Heros said:
Is Kerr a bad coach? Asking for reals. I don't think he is bad but may not be the genius everyone thinks. Klay/Wiggins are priorities obviously but they have been so rough you gotta switch things up. CP should be playing less until he looks more spry (he may be fully washed).

Maybe Kuminga and Moody look better in a different style? Maybe we can buy low on Moody? I am not sure they bite the bullet on Paul or if they would consider JC a fit for what they do... but JC/KO for Paul and Moody is a fair deal and might help them given Kerr's preference for vets (all coaches prefer vets but you know what I mean).
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I think that when you have overwhelming success with something it's hard to go away from it.

So when those pieces are failing, when do you actually significantly change from what has worked? At the end of the day you just got to hope Green/Thompson/Wiggins pick it up. Not like the alternatives have a high ceiling to win this year.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think that when you have overwhelming success with something it's hard to go away from it.

So when those pieces are failing, when do you actually significantly change from what has worked? At the end of the day you just got to hope Green/Thompson/Wiggins pick it up. Not like the alternatives have a high ceiling to win this year.
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The more I look at that GS situation and how ugly the years will be after Steph slows down... the more I think we should target them in a Lauri deal (if we get there).

Kuminga, Moody, and then you get wild with the draft stuff... they owe a pick in 24 that will convey but we could get super swaps in 25,27,29 with the other picks we own. Makes those swaps extremely valuable. Then you get picks in 26,28 unprotected. If they really believe they can squeak out one more title I doubt they'd do better than Lauri and that could be the Nets KG/Pierce trade Danny has been chasing.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The more I look at that GS situation and how ugly the years will be after Steph slows down... the more I think we should target them in a Lauri deal (if we get there).

Kuminga, Moody, and then you get wild with the draft stuff... they owe a pick in 24 that will convey but we could get super swaps in 25,27,29 with the other picks we own. Makes those swaps extremely valuable. Then you get picks in 26,28 unprotected. If they really believe they can squeak out one more title I doubt they'd do better than Lauri and that could be the Nets KG/Pierce trade Danny has been chasing.
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I really dont like Kuminga so I'm out on anything that includes him and I'd just rather not give Lauri to a great franchise then hope they fail. Big desirable markets usually have a way of making things work and that becomes much easier with a guy like Lauri.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Is Kerr a bad coach? Asking for reals. I don't think he is bad but may not be the genius everyone thinks. Klay/Wiggins are priorities obviously but they have been so rough you gotta switch things up. CP should be playing less until he looks more spry (he may be fully washed).

Maybe Kuminga and Moody look better in a different style? Maybe we can buy low on Moody? I am not sure they bite the bullet on Paul or if they would consider JC a fit for what they do... but JC/KO for Paul and Moody is a fair deal and might help them given Kerr's preference for vets (all coaches prefer vets but you know what I mean).
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I don't know if he is a bad coach but I think he is clearly a mediocre coach. When he didn't have Steph and Klay for those 2 seasons they were terrible and you saw basically no player development. Even Draymond was awful during that stretch.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I really dont like Kuminga so I'm out on anything that includes him and I'd just rather not give Lauri to a great franchise then hope they fail. Big desirable markets usually have a way of making things work and that becomes much easier with a guy like Lauri.
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SF is not nearly as desirable as it used to be. Its a nice play to visit (sometimes)... would suck to live there. Bob Myers bailed on them cuz he knew what is coming.

I'm not a big Kuminga fan but I think you could flip him and recently I have kind of seen what some do. The jumper is ugly and its hard for me to imagine huge upside.
 
The levels of audacity for Jonathon Kuminga to greenlight an article about him losing faith in Steve Kerr is just wild.
 
You can't have a team with Walker and Kuminga IMO. If we had a guy like Chet as our center I'd be more interested.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I don’t think we need to worry about fit at the moment and just focus on getting the most talent we can.
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I mean, you got to worry a bit.

The guy is throwing a fit while getting minutes on the Warriors. What do you think he'd do on a team like the Jazz and he's getting the same treatment?
 
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