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I did what many told me not to and I would like your wisdom, guys

CONAN said:
4 kids here ages 9-17.

I know it's not the popular route but in my field I see way too many kids that haven't had a enough discipline. They need a father not a friend.

Don't be the guy that can't take care of his own kids. Like wife is afraid to leave you alone with them for more than five minutes let alone overnight.

I know it's a fathering thread but being a good husband is a big part of being a good father. Honestly communicate with the wife and make sure you guys are on the same page.
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Very well said. The amount of parents who are friends with their kids amazes me. Or the amount who say **** about other parents not disciplining their kids and then turn a blind eye to their own child acting like Captain Douchebag shocks me. Manners. Morality. Decency. A sense of one's place in the world. These are common things that need to be taught. In the scheme of things, your child isn't ****. Nor is mine. No one person is that important. Yet they are. If that makes sense. And yet parents allow their children to walk around doing whatever they please whenever they please.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Very well said. The amount of parents who are friends with their kids amazes me. Or the amount who say **** about other parents not disciplining their kids and then turn a blind eye to their own child acting like Captain Douchebag shocks me. Manners. Morality. Decency. A sense of one's place in the world. These are common things that need to be taught. In the scheme of things, your child isn't ****. Nor is mine. No one person is that important. Yet they are. If that makes sense. And yet parents allow their children to walk around doing whatever they please whenever they please.
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I quit. Not that because I agree with the spankers. It's just... my english is not enough to argue. Especially at the friggin 6:00 am...
 
This a broad statement but my father who was an administrator -- and whose wife was as well (both are recently retired) -- and who served in Vietnam said he believes the most important lesson a child can learn is that of disappointment. While there's no wrong or right answer, his thought makes great sense. Kids complain and quit because they're not accustomed to failure and overcoming it. Kids act like d-bags because their parents, quite frankly, are too scared to hurt their feelings and do the right thing and discipline them. God forbid their kid's sent to their room without any technological access or luxuries for 48 hours. God forbid a parent say one thing and then actually follow through with it. God forbid a parent admit their kid is a dick and needs a ****ing lesson in basic humanity. Whatever, you get the point. I could go on and on here.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
This a broad statement but my father who was an administrator -- and whose wife was as well (both are recently retired) -- and who served in Vietnam said he believes the most important lesson a child can learn is that of disappointment. While there's no wrong or right answer, his thought makes great sense. Kids complain and quit because they're not accustomed to failure and overcoming it. Kids act like d-bags because their parents, quite frankly, are too scared to hurt their feelings and do the right thing and discipline them. God forbid their kid's sent to their room without any technological access or luxuries for 48 hours. God forbid a parent say one thing and then actually follow through with it. God forbid a parent admit their kid is a dick and needs a ****ing lesson in basic humanity. Whatever, you get the point. I could go on and on here.
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I try to make my kids try everything at least once on their own. Also my older daughter I did not meet till she was 3 1/2. Her mom acted more as her friend than her mother. With my younger daughter I was there from day 1. The difference between the two was night and day. The younger one was raised to know her bounderies. The older one has taken alot of time and effort to teach her the lessons should have been raised with.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
This a broad statement but my father who was an administrator -- and whose wife was as well (both are recently retired) -- and who served in Vietnam said he believes the most important lesson a child can learn is that of disappointment. While there's no wrong or right answer, his thought makes great sense. Kids complain and quit because they're not accustomed to failure and overcoming it. Kids act like d-bags because their parents, quite frankly, are too scared to hurt their feelings and do the right thing and discipline them. God forbid their kid's sent to their room without any technological access or luxuries for 48 hours. God forbid a parent say one thing and then actually follow through with it. God forbid a parent admit their kid is a dick and needs a ****ing lesson in basic humanity. Whatever, you get the point. I could go on and on here.
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I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about, but I often make my kids fail. I don't mean I give them impossible tasks that they simply cannot do. I mean that I don't step in and take over when they fail to do things they honestly can do. I make them try a number of times and then ask if they'd like some help. And I try not to take over and do it for them. I'll offer suggestions and give a small helping hand, all the while making them do the majority of the work. Something along the lines of teaching them to fish as opposed to giving them a fish.
 
catratcho said:
I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about, but I often make my kids fail. I don't mean I give them impossible tasks that they simply cannot do. I mean that I don't step in and take over when they fail to do things they honestly can do. I make them try a number of times and then ask if they'd like some help. And I try not to take over and do it for them. I'll offer suggestions and give a small helping hand, all the while making them do the majority of the work. Something along the lines of teaching them to fish as opposed to giving them a fish.
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Yes, this is what I mean. Sort of.
 
MK11 - reminds me of the typical democrat. No real world experience but knows the answer to everything. Have kids, then come and chide. Until then, it's just words. Theories are great, but whether they work or not in the real world is something completely different.
 
green said:
MK11 - reminds me of the typical democrat. No real world experience but knows the answer to everything. Have kids, then come and chide. Until then, it's just words. Theories are great, but whether they work or not in the real world is something completely different.
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