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Jazz trade Fonteccio to Pistons for 2024 2nd

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Utah Jazz grade: B+
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For the most part, this looks like pragmatism on the part of Utah CEO of basketball operations Danny Ainge, who has operated patiently since taking control of the Jazz. Given Fontecchio was an unrestricted free agent in the summer of 2022, getting an early second-round pick in return is a huge win.
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r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
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Due to his combination of size and skill, Fontecchio had become a crucial player for the Jazz. Lineups with Fontecchio at small forward had played just about even over the course of the season (minus-0.5 net rating), per my analysis of lineup data from NBA Advanced Stats -- easily the best mark of any Utah player who's seen more than 50 minutes of action at small forward.
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Barring another trade before the deadline, this looks like a second straight year a Jazz team in play-in contention will take a step back.
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In other words, **** this ****.
 
I'm a bit surprised by the consensus reaction, I like this trade for us. Not sure I get it from Detroit's perspective.

Simone is a good players and could be a "piece" on a contending team, but we are nowhere near that. DA clearly remains laser-focused on acquiring assets with future value to go out and get the franchise cornerstones when the time is right. Obviously we're trying to win come tipoff time, but it's pretty damn obvious the FO has not been trying to win from a roster construction standpoint the last 24 months. If we move JC, Sexton (we shouldn't), KO, etc. nobody should be expecting "win now" pieces in return.

The 2nd this year from Detroit is valuable. It's essentially a late first, has more near-term value than a heavily protected FRP that won't convey for 2+ years (if ever), and puts us in a great spot to trade into the late first if there's someone we are targeting in that range come draft night.

And I suppose I'm higher on Knox than most - the raw material is still there, he's just been on bad, bad teams. Hardy can clearly get the most out of players with good size, length, and shooting ability. It wasn't long ago that Lauri was also massively wasted.
 
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I'm a bit surprised by the consensus reaction, I like this trade for us. Not sure I get it from Detroit's perspective.

Simone is a good players and could be a "piece" on a contending team, but we are nowhere near that. DA clearly remains laser-focused on acquiring assets with future value to go out and get the franchise cornerstones when the time is right. Obviously we're trying to win come tipoff time, but it's pretty damn obvious the FO has not been trying to win from a roster construction standpoint the last 24 months. If we move JC, Sexton (we shouldn't), KO, etc. nobody should be expecting "win now" pieces in return.

The 2nd this year from Detroit is valuable. It's essentially a late first, has more near-term value than a heavily protected FRP that won't convey for 2+ years (if ever), and puts us in a great spot to trade into the late first if there's someone we are targeting in that range come draft night.

And I suppose I'm higher on Knox than most - the raw material is still there, he's just been on bad, bad teams. Hardy can clearly get the most out of players with good size, length, and shooting ability. It wasn't long ago that Lauri was also massively wasted.
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Knox ain't it. He's just a throw in.
 
I’ll bet Knox gets rerouted. He has no value except maybe for salary purposes. And I think it’s likely the 2nd round pick is traded. Fournier/ Grimes may be incoming. But I wonder if De’andre Hunter could be the target for the Jazz.
 
I have no idea how the jazz view Knox but I have wanted to give him a look for a while now. I liked his potential coming out of Kentucky and every once in a while he has a game where you say this guy has a chance to be solid.
 
This trade seems to surprise many. But Danny’s task is to build a championship team (not a play-in team). He obviously thinks Simone was never going to be a required piece in his championship/contender team whenever its ready, so he trades him to get assets rather than getting nothing. KO and THT are next, and hopefully Clarkson, too, although he’s not expiring. … I’m still a bit wary about OKC’s mountain of FRPs and Lauri. I guess I shouldn’t be. No one else here seems to be.
 
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