Game Thread Mar 12, 2024 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Celtics

[seattlejazzfan]

Two seasons in a row of me promoting a tank job and being lambasted by you guys for it only to see the jazz finally commit to it with 30 or fewer games left then getting support from all you idiots.

Maybe the jazz wise up and tank from the start. We could have 3 rookies and 3 sophomores. Play the damn rookies all freaking year please!!!

um, check your "you guys" i've been begging for full on tanks since mitchell and rudy were traded. but hell, even just trying to win, putting all your eggs in that basket, would be better than trying to win for 2/3 of the season, then gutting the team and tanking the last third of the season when it's too late to get a high pick. crazy how bad the jazz bungled last season only to turn around and do the exact same thing again. laughable.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

um, check your "you guys" i've been begging for full on tanks since mitchell and rudy were traded. but hell, even just trying to win, putting all your eggs in that basket, would be better than trying to win for 2/3 of the season, then gutting the team and tanking the last third of the season when it's too late to get a high pick. crazy how bad the jazz bungled last season only to turn around and do it again. laughable.

Ehhh... this year the cost isn't bad and I understood kind of the approach. Last year costing yourself a small shot at Wemby is really rough.

What is crazy is that if the summer doesn't go great then a 2 year tank and deconstruction should be on the table... but I am not sure it will be because the last couple years of meh will influence decisions.

 

[HermanG]

All of it. Dude has gone full 3rd year Hayward with his frustration and body language. (Maybe it was 4th year…)

Has looked so much more clunky on offense this year and last night guys were completely unbothered by him. Was struggling to out him physical Kornet.

This summer is critical for him but I’m officially worried.

I definitely share your concern and agree that its not pretty right now. Hopefully the confidence side just needs an offseason soft boot instead of a factory reset. The Team USA stint probably worked backwards on his confidence.

 

[infection]

Hayward still on Boston?

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Ehhh... this year the cost isn't bad and I understood kind of the approach. Last year costing yourself a small shot at Wemby is really rough.

What is crazy is that if the summer doesn't go great then a 2 year tank and deconstruction should be on the table... but I am not sure it will be because the last couple years of meh will influence decisions.

it's not AS bad simply due to a weaker draft at the top, but a top 5 pick is still better than the 9th pick. so yeah, while it's not AS bad it still makes no sense. either try to win or don't.

 

[homeytennis]

Hardy I think got the memo. He was all in on the tank the 4th quarter. A tankmasterful job of coaching there.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I definitely share your concern and agree that its not pretty right now. Hopefully the confidence side just needs an offseason soft boot instead of a factory reset. The Team USA stint probably worked backwards on his confidence.

Yeah after last year I felt pretty set at center. At this point I'd look around at some options with our late picks (I think that is a pretty fruitful area of the draft for bigs) and might even consider some FA options if there was a really good trade available for Walker.

I think the Collins sidequest has also hurt Walker. I'd say I'm at a 6 right now out of 10 on the worried scale.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

it's not AS bad, but a top 5 pick is still better than the 9th pick. so yeah, while it's not AS bad it still makes no sense. either try to win or don't.

I agree. I do think there was some benefit to this season and it would be hard to tank with Lauri, Collin, etc. playing most of the year. If we do decide to tank we will have to offload some talent and those that complained we didn't do it last couple years might get even more frustrated.

I do think if you want to get into the top of this draft there will be opportunities to trade up.

 

[homeytennis]

I thought Potter and Luka played decently and the sad part or good part is that probably both won't be back.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If the Jazz gets the #1 overall pick you probably have to take Sarr.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I thought Potter and Luka played decently and the sad part or good part is that probably both won't be back.

Potter could easily get signed as a end of roster guy. He will be competing with Lofton Jr in the off season.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I definitely share your concern and agree that its not pretty right now. Hopefully the confidence side just needs an offseason soft boot instead of a factory reset. The Team USA stint probably worked backwards on his confidence.

Why did Team USA hurt his confidence exactly? Who thought the guy with one year experience was going to be a main rotation guy for the national team? It should have been pretty clear to everyone he was just there to provide a body for practices and to get him in the national system if he ever amounts to anything down the line. TEam USA should have been a massive confidence boost no matter what. You are among (some of) the top young players for an extended period of time and training with them.

Like if this is the level of mental fragility with Kessler that's a huge red flag.