What value do you think Lauri would command back in a trade?
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andylarsen
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No idea in specific those three games, but THT's end of season minutes were much more about what other people were doing than what he was doing. IOW, if Keyonte was approaching the game the right way, Hardy had no problem playing him a ton of minutes. If he wasn't playing his hardest, or was playing selfishly... Hardy tried to make that clear through playing time.
Do you listen to Jackpotting Around and would you be gracious enough to hop on the pod again?
Do you think Danny Ainge recognizes that the Jazz are now committed to (very) young players and are not really in a position to contend even if they do go "big game hunting"? In other words, do you think he was just being coy in his recent presser?
andylarsen
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Everyone seems to think no, and Jordan himself talked about the Jazz in the past tense in his exit interview. It just makes sense for the Jazz to move on from Jordan.
And yet.... Jordan also thought he was being traded this deadline, and wasn't. In the end, the trade market for Clarkson has just been super super soft. And I get it! If I'm any kind of analytically oriented GM, I'm not buying a 32 year old with bottom-end eFG% numbers at anything above a MLE. Random scorer dudes are always available — see, IDK, Kelly Oubre on the minimum. Your hope is that Clarkson rebounds his value next year, but if I'm another team, I'm letting the Jazz take that risk.
In the end, I don't think there will be a buyer, and he ends up in his same role for the Jazz next year. But if not, I think the team that trades for Jordan Clarkson won't take him on to acquire Jordan Clarkson, but as salary ballast in a larger move.
andylarsen
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I don't think he was being coy in the presser, I think he was being honest. I also don't think he's *that* committed to the very young players. Like, he's what they have right now and they'll do the best that they can to develop them and he likes them more than, say, other prospects in last year's draft... but I don't think he's attached to this being the core of the future or anything.
andylarsen
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My embarrassing thing is I listen to no podcasts... any of them that have content I want to listen to I just upload into our transcription service (Otter) and then read. I like reading as a way to get information faster! That being said, I did do that for the Tony episode of Jackpotting around.
And as you guys know, I read here fairly often. Usually not often enough to respond to threads in the moment, but I'll catch up on the discussion every, IDK, couple weeks. Especially true during trade deadline or draft/FA time when you sometimes have creative ideas.
But yeah I'll jump on. It was fun the first time, and you guys asked smart questions.
Darkwing Duck
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So Clarkson and Collins for Chris Paul, Moses Moody and a second.
jom2003
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We are already miserably bad on defense... Not sure adding Trae Young would be the solution to anything... Ice Trae chant would sound really cool in SLC though
Was really hoping for Dejounte Murray but that ship has sailed, I would assume?
andylarsen
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I don't know, really. I'd think about, like, a No. 8 for Deni Avdija idea. I actually don't know if I'd predict any of these guys to be better than Deni Avdija was last year. Obviously some random draft dudes are going to pop, and maybe the Jazz just need the upside potential of a draft pick. But they also just need value and if the right guys aren't there at No. 8, I might sell over using it on a Dalton Knecht type.
andylarsen
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90s: I was born in 1991, so limited. I was weirdly reading the newspaper with my breakfast cereal by the end of that, though... I was interested in sports and weather as a kid. So probably Steve Luhm? Honestly it's absolutely wild that I get to do that job now.
00s: John Hollinger and Dean Oliver, no doubt. I remember Hollinger's Pro Basketball Prospectus with Amare on the cover, carried that around in my backpack in HS. I was also reading a ton of baseball analytics stuff then, mostly Bill James and the Baseball Prospectus guys. (There are so many good BP writers.)
10s: Zach Lowe is obviously the guy who led the way in a ton of ways to really develop the style I steal from a lot, and I think for a time there he was the best sportswriter on the planet. But goodness, the whole blogosphere and internet was *popping* in the late 00s early 10s. Too many names to mention. Honestly some of my biggest influences then were a lot of my cowriters at SLCDunk and Salt City Hoops... Kris, Clark, Amar, Dan among them.
20s: As the good analytics guys have just been immediately hired, it's been harder to find the best stats stuff online, IMO. There are obviously exceptions. There's still a ton of great Xs and Os work as a I try to understand more of that side of the game... I'll give Slappin' Glass a significant shoutout here... their podcast with Will Hardy at the beginning of the year was super in depth. But generally coaching-focused writing is what I'm learning most from these days. I pay a ton of money for random subscriptions to stuff, though: Stein, Haberstroh, Tom Ziller, CleaningThe Glass, Synergy, PBPStats, so much more.
I'm forgetting to name a gazillion folks here