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Offseason Plan + Lauri Thread

Watching the playoffs makes me think if we dont get a true #1 to pair with lauri we just move on from him. Jazz is not gonna build around a #2 who relies on assist. Playoffs have shown us iso is still king. This rebuild is going take a while.
 
HermanG said:
To be precise he said it wasnt plan A, B or C.
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I don’t think it is the plan but I also don’t trust anything he says in a public forum to be gospel. I think it was asked with respect to the amount of picks we have but can’t remember.

I just think there are enough buyers that stars won’t be available at bargain prices so he likely doesn’t go that route. I think we end up doing some light pruning of the roster or some mid additions. It will frustrate the hell out of a lot of us that they don’t move hard enough in one direction or the other.

I have no idea what the right thing to do is… I just think next years draft looks pretty ripe through 5-6 and I want in one way or another.
 
stitches said:
I don't know how to square that with Ainge's statement that he doesn't want to bring in a bunch of 20 year olds again to camp. This to me sounds like he wants us to try to be more competitive this year. It's going to be really interesting off-season.
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He said he didn't want to bring six 20 y.o.s. We'll probably have 4 or 5 after trades.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don’t think it is the plan but I also don’t trust anything he says in a public forum to be gospel. I think it was asked with respect to the amount of picks we have but can’t remember.

I just think there are enough buyers that stars won’t be available at bargain prices so he likely doesn’t go that route. I think we end up doing some light pruning of the roster or some mid additions. It will frustrate the hell out of a lot of us that they don’t move hard enough in one direction or the other.

I have no idea what the right thing to do is… I just think next years draft looks pretty ripe through 5-6 and I want in one way or another.
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Here is the question and full answer:

With multiple draft picks and a lot of cap space, what optionality do you have this offseason?​

“Yeah lots of good options ... and that’s that’s what we’re trying to keep is our is our flexibility and options open. You know, we don’t ... our plan is not to come to training camp with six kids under 20 years old. That’s not ... that’s not a real good option for anybody ... I can’t say that that won’t happen and say that’s not like option A or option B maybe not option C.”
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I personally read that more on the lines that you can only have so many young kids on the roster. I think he thinks its a bad option for development.
 
HermanG said:
Here is the question and full answer:

With multiple draft picks and a lot of cap space, what optionality do you have this offseason?​



I personally read that more on the lines that you can only have so many young kids on the roster. I think he thinks its a bad option for development.
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You don't want a ton of projects, especially ones that have significant overlap. It's common sense. It's why these trades were people are returning multiple picks this year along with a bunch of mid tier rookie contract players for Lauri is preposterous
 
HermanG said:
Here is the question and full answer:

With multiple draft picks and a lot of cap space, what optionality do you have this offseason?​



I personally read that more on the lines that you can only have so many young kids on the roster. I think he thinks its a bad option for development.
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Yeah and I agree. Having that many young guys its hard to get good dev time. I think it hints more towards us moving the later picks in some sort of consolidation or doing the thing where you trade #32 for like 6 second round picks by moving backwards a few times or something.

But I think if there aren't good opportunities they will just draft in those spots and deal with it. I think ideally in a rebuild you are adding two good prospects each year and a speculative add.. like a solid two-way guy.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yeah and I agree. Having that many young guys its hard to get good dev time. I think it hints more towards us moving the later picks in some sort of consolidation or doing the thing where you trade #32 for like 6 second round picks by moving backwards a few times or something.

But I think if there aren't good opportunities they will just draft in those spots and deal with it. I think ideally in a rebuild you are adding two good prospects each year and a speculative add.. like a solid two-way guy.
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My bet is he tries to move up using the no 10, no 29 and no 32 picks (plus maybe adding something/player too). This is easier said than done though.
 
underdog said:
My bet is he tries to move up using the no 10, no 29 and no 32 picks (plus maybe adding something/player too). This is easier said than done though.
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I think 29/32 can get you to the low 20s easily if they have someone they like. Not sure those picks move the needle moving up from 10… but maybe.
 
I think getting Sarr and another quality player in this draft and trading within reason the experienced non Lauri players for draft assets is the best value move this off-season.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I outlined it as best as I could in this series of tweets but us trading Lauri is more complex than it seems on the surface.

View: https://x.com/ArtTakesNote/status/1795474799621460093



View: https://x.com/ArtTakesNote/status/1795474800581943452



View: https://x.com/ArtTakesNote/status/1795474801798049969
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Do teams with cap space have to wait 6 months? I don't see why their ability to R+E would be any different than the Jazz.

EDIT: Eliza is correct. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q95

Conversely, a team cannot extend a player it receives in trade for six months, if the extension exceeds the limits of an extend-and-trade3.
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I said it was 95%+ chances of Lauri being R+E. Now I'd say it's 99.5%.
 
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