Jazz-Sixers idea again: Iggy+EB for AK+TPE

[jimmyjazz]

Iguodala fits in the Boozer TPE and Matthews won't have to be matched. But I think that Sixers would start considering that only if they can at least also get rid of Brand. If it were possible not to include Brand, hurrah but I'd think the Sixers would insist on it. Therefore him and AK.

For next season, the difference in $M figures for Iggy+EB (12.3+16) and for AK+matching Matthews (17.8+4) is $6M. Not a small margin but not many miles apart either. Iggy's contract years remaining are 3 + 1 p-opt. Brand's got 3 more (look at it as 2 years untradable and the last as big tradable expiring).

For the Sixers, they can start letting Turner be a Roy-type point SG people envision him to be (they also have a scoring PG Louis Williams) and could rebuild around him. AK might also actually be useful for them.

Does Brand address our height issue? Not really, although his wingspan's allowed him to play bigger. He'd be overpaid like AK but Brand could be a better backup PF.

Iguodala is capable of becoming a 20ppg scorer, making up for some of the offense lost with Boozer leaving, only through a different spot. Iggy's also an athletic defender and already brings 6+ rebounds and almost 6 assists a game. He could be great alongside Deron.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

No brand!!

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Would put the Jazz right about on the tax line with 8 players signed. No way the Jazz do that.

 

[RocStar]

I agree Just AK for AI would suffice. I was thinking that this would've been ideal during the season when Philly seeks to dump salary and give Turner the keys.This deal makes sense so don't hold your breath expecting the jazz FO to make this move.

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

TPE cannot be combined with anything else.

 

[memo is money]

AS far as I know, TPEs cannot be included as a piece of a trade. They could only be used alone. Is that true?

 

[Darkwing Duck]

TPE for Iggy. AK for Brand.

Trade is doable. Jazz still won't do it.

 

[jimmyjazz]

TPE cannot be combined with anything else.

AS far as I know, TPEs cannot be included as a piece of a trade. They could only be used alone. Is that true?

Like I said, Iguodala fits in the Boozer TPE. And AK and Brand's salaries match.

That you can't combine a TPE in a trade is in the sense for example that you can't use an 8M TPE and a 5M player to trade for a 13M player. But, you can trade a 13M TPE for a 13M player in the same instance as other players whose salaries match, as would in this case. And even in the extremely unlikely event that a TPE can't be part of the same trade, the simple workaround to that is two separate trades of the TPE for Iggy and AK for Brand.

 

[jimmyjazz]

Would put the Jazz right about on the tax line with 8 players signed. No way the Jazz do that.

If the Jazz are where they're now plus match Wes, it would only be about $6M less -- that also gives the Jazz the team from last year minus Boozer and Korver (and no Fes yet) but with Hayward. I'd rather the Jazz go for this trade around Iggy.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

If the Jazz are where they're now plus match Wes, it would only be about $6M less -- that also gives the Jazz the team from last year minus Boozer and Korver (and no Fes yet) but with Hayward. I'd rather the Jazz go for this trade around Iggy.

And you would see the Jazz doing the same thing they did last year, dumping contracts to try to get under the tax. Iggy and Brand won't help the Jazz win long term, so why do it? AK straight for Iguodala I would definitely consider, even with his huge contract, but even then, I'd be hesitant to do it.

 

[mellow]

All I want is rookie contracts and draft picks, and the way KOC drafts and Jerry's long history of developing players it had better be LOTS of draft picks.

 

[cowhide]

No way would I take on Brand's contract. I would rather let AK walk and take a shot at free agency.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I just thought of this trade in a different way.

Jazz trade 17.8 million dollars in contracts for 107.6 million dollars in contracts. Brand and Iggy worth that?

 

[d@!!0n0rcutt]

I would defiantly do the Boozer TPE for Iggy, and I might add in a draft pick...with a line up of DWill-Iggy-AK-Millsap-??? would be intriguing, with the Magic possibly shopping Gortat then we trade the Harpring TPE for him, then your really looking at something serious especially if Okur comes back some what healthy. Rotations of...

DWill/Price
Iggy/Miles/Honzward
AK/Iggy/Honzward
Sap/AK/KK
Okur(when healthy)/Gortat/Fes

Thoughts?

 

[green]

I just thought of this trade in a different way.

Jazz trade 17.8 million dollars in contracts for 107.6 million dollars in contracts. Brand and Iggy worth that?

I just moved from Philly, and other than Turner and their young pg, you don't want anyone from that team. If people are sick of AK, why would we trade for a player with less talent than AK (AI) and a lot more money. We are about to get out from under AK, we don't want to make the same mistake.

And for those that like AI, if he is that good, in a league where one player can carry a team, why were the 76ers so bad? They were so bad, they actually signed the real AI. Iggy is overpaid, and not worth it.

 

[David Stern]

I would defiantly do the Boozer TPE for Iggy, and I might add in a draft pick...with a line up of DWill-Iggy-AK-Millsap-??? would be intriguing, with the Magic possibly shopping Gortat then we trade the Harpring TPE for him, then your really looking at something serious especially if Okur comes back some what healthy. Rotations of...

DWill/Price
Iggy/Miles/Honzward
AK/Iggy/Honzward
Sap/AK/KK
Okur(when healthy)/Gortat/Fes

Thoughts?

Who on that team would shoot jump shots?

 

[jimmyjazz]

I just thought of this trade in a different way.

Jazz trade 17.8 million dollars in contracts for 107.6 million dollars in contracts. Brand and Iggy worth that?

That 17.8M figure is only entirely accurate if the Jazz keep AK the rest of the year and don't re-sign him or get a replacement after that in the next 3-4 years, don't match Wes's 34M, and not do anything else.

 

[jimmyjazz]

I would defiantly do the Boozer TPE for Iggy, and I might add in a draft pick...with a line up of DWill-Iggy-AK-Millsap-??? would be intriguing,

If it's possible to get Iguodala only for the TPE and a pick, and not to have to involve Brand in this, that would be really great. I still think Philly insists on including Brand but if the TPE and a pick for Iggy is enough, absolutely.

with the Magic possibly shopping Gortat then we trade the Harpring TPE for him, then your really looking at something serious especially if Okur comes back some what healthy.

After absorbing Iggy for the Boozer TPE, it would be harder to expect to use the Harp TPE for Gortat, or even the MLE for that matter. Doubtful they can do that though, more likely the Jazz would have to do a trade to bring other players in. But again, if they'd be willing to do one of using the Harp TPE or the MLE, then great.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Awful proposal.

 

[ncoloradojazz]

i find it funny that people always come up with trade ideas that will never happen..Doug collins wants to play iggy at the 3.turner 2..jru at point..He has been on record as saying as much..plus why would philly trade iggy and brand for ak...Whats in the water out in utah fo reals? dif would make jazz better especially if brand was healthy cuz when healthy he a beast but it goes back to duke curse..1 dukie won a chip EVER