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Santonio Holmes and Big Ben would disagree with you on this statement
Not even close. Now, if you were to say "Eli Manning and David Tyree...", I'd listen, but not agree. That play by Jones is an all-timer.
Gyp Rosetti
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Not true. The Jets beating the Colts in SB III was the biggest upset ever, at least if you're going by point spread because that, I believe, was 18. The NY/Pats one was somewhere between 8.5-11.5. I forget exactly where but nowhere near 18.
Gyp Rosetti
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This. At least have some balls and come in here and take your loss like a man and...oh, wait.
Gyp Rosetti
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There have been many, many excellent SB's over the last decade or so but all pale in comparison to the Giants /Bills one for me. I know we each hold things special in our memories but I still remember but much of that game vividly. We were in the middle of the war in the Middle East or whatever we called it and there therefore was much precaution taken to ensure there was no terrorist activity. The Americana/tension vibe in the building was palpable. Then, Whitney came in, partly lipsung or not, and crushed the National Anthem pushing the patriotism/SB feel to an almost off the charts level. Then, the game started. It was the unstoppable juggernaut of a Bills team (who I believe scored 49 in the first half the previous week vs. Oakland in the AFC Championship game) vs NY, the tough, grind it out, full of heart Parcells coached team. They were the antithesis of one another. And the game was always close throughout and full of memorable plays that kept this sort of David vs. Goliath going. My favorite two were Ottis (OJ) Anderson's run (off tackle left I picture it) in which about ten yards down the field, he gave a wind-up forearm shiver to a Bills tackler. Later on, on a drive that I believe was a must score mid-way or late through the 4th for the Giants, NY converted on a 3rd and 15 or something like that in which Hoss completed about a 9 yard pass which the receiver then took, juking defender after defender, fighting for every little inch, to get the first down. Just some of the most gutty plays you could imagine. Buffalo got the ball last, and I recall a run (or maybe screen pass) which Thurman Thomas took for a big gain, maybe 35 yards or so, I believe between the right guard and RT, down the right side. Back and forth. Back and forth. A great team vs. a great team. And one that came down to the last play.
Some of these other ones were great but did not have the background drama and also weren't great throughout. The Rams/Titans one was boring as hell in the first half. The Pats/Carolina one was also a snoozer in the first half. The Rams/Pats was sort of meh before the ending. The Giants/Pats was great because of the undefeated season but I never remember feeling that intangible, that something so special is in the air feeling, like I did with NY/Buffalo. But that's just me.
Gyp Rosetti
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Holy cow you're a clueless moran.
Yeah, I disagree with this one.
Okay. I finally feel ready to talk about it.
What a heart breaker.
I want so badly to blame Kyle Williams, and I still wonder what could have been, if even one of those mistakes never happened, but alas, he was really only part of the problem.
The offense just stalled in the fourth quarter. They looked bad.
Interestingly, the Giants didn't look much better. But they capitalized the two times they had an extremely short field, so kudos to them.
The silver lining is, this season wasn't a fluke (despite what some bitter Saints fans may think). The Niners need to bolster their receiving corps. One big-play receiver could make a world of difference for them. We'll see what they can do during the off season. But I think they will be around for a while.
Congratulations to the Giants. They deserved that win, and I wish them best of luck in the SB.
What a heart breaker.
I want so badly to blame Kyle Williams, and I still wonder what could have been, if even one of those mistakes never happened, but alas, he was really only part of the problem.
The offense just stalled in the fourth quarter. They looked bad.
Interestingly, the Giants didn't look much better. But they capitalized the two times they had an extremely short field, so kudos to them.
The silver lining is, this season wasn't a fluke (despite what some bitter Saints fans may think). The Niners need to bolster their receiving corps. One big-play receiver could make a world of difference for them. We'll see what they can do during the off season. But I think they will be around for a while.
Congratulations to the Giants. They deserved that win, and I wish them best of luck in the SB.
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I think the Niners are the NFC's Jets.
Rex Ryan looked wonderful his first year. He also had a dominate defense and a "don't screw it up" offense. Until the Harbaugh's open up the playbook, both will continue to come close but fail to get into the SB.
Niners: Awesome defense (we'll see if they continue to be dominate. Teams will study to see how to beat Justin Smith and those linebackers. In addition, teams will look to pick off those good defenders via FA).
Horrible offense.
As far as big play WRs, don't they already have Crabtree? If he isn't a big play WR, who is? Niners aren't going to get Calvin Johnson anytime soon.
I think too much blame goes on Alex. Too little goes on Saint Harbaugh and his ultra-conservative offense.
Until they change this attitude, I don't see them winning anything anytime soon. Cool. Change the QB. Bring in Thomas Brady. cool. Bring in Larry Fitz and Calvin Johnson. Cool. But if he's still only throwing it a handful of times and the WRs only get 2-3 touches a game, you're going to struggle in today's NFL. This ain't the 50s no more.
Rex Ryan looked wonderful his first year. He also had a dominate defense and a "don't screw it up" offense. Until the Harbaugh's open up the playbook, both will continue to come close but fail to get into the SB.
Niners: Awesome defense (we'll see if they continue to be dominate. Teams will study to see how to beat Justin Smith and those linebackers. In addition, teams will look to pick off those good defenders via FA).
Horrible offense.
As far as big play WRs, don't they already have Crabtree? If he isn't a big play WR, who is? Niners aren't going to get Calvin Johnson anytime soon.
I think too much blame goes on Alex. Too little goes on Saint Harbaugh and his ultra-conservative offense.
Until they change this attitude, I don't see them winning anything anytime soon. Cool. Change the QB. Bring in Thomas Brady. cool. Bring in Larry Fitz and Calvin Johnson. Cool. But if he's still only throwing it a handful of times and the WRs only get 2-3 touches a game, you're going to struggle in today's NFL. This ain't the 50s no more.
I don't agree with this, but I guess it depends on your definition of horrible. They are certainly not the Pats, or Saints, or Packers, but they have a strong running game, and an average passing game. Plus a great kicker. They are the team they are because of their defense, for sure. But even the best defense can't cover for a horrible offense. They did go 13-3 this year.
Thanks for clearing that up. Reall though, I'm not so deluded as to think you can just go down to the corner bodega and pick up a big play WR. But that is where they lack the greatest. I think they need to concentrate some effort in that area. Whether or not they can fill the void remains to be seen.
Crabtree is all bark, no bite. Did he look like a big play WR this year? He didn't to me, and I pay extra special attention to the Niners.
You're right that Alex shouldn't take all the blame, and the play calling could definitely open up, but I think it's important to recognize that Harbaugh's system has given the Niners a level of confidence they haven't seen in years. Hopefully he builds on it. And maybe he is a saint, if he can take a team from 6-10 to 13-3 with most of the same pieces.
BluesRocker
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Thats pretty funny. But actually if they switched spots. The niners would be going to the superbowl
Im starting to wonder if you even watch football