Should we go full rebuild?

[KqWIN]

I’ve always believed that having the star players is more of a power position than having whatever picks/assets you get for trading him. We should keep Lauri, having Lauri on our team is a privilege.

Having said that, I also don’t believe in wasting a player’s prime nor do I believe with trying to compete for a half a year only to quit and tank for the other half. By doing this, the Jazz have essentially limited the rewards for trying to win or lose. The goal for winning is the play in. The goal for tanking is to get the 9th pick. Not a ton of reward either way.

They may have squeezed out some extra value by waiting (or they may have lost some), but that comes at a cost of pissing off Lauri after lying to him. If the Jazz want to do Lauri+young players, I think that is fine. If that’s what the FO wants, do it. But actually do it. Don’t play half a season and then quit. Do not go after John Collins if your plan was to not compete. What they’re doing does not install a lot of confidence in me. Either #1, they totally went against their plan of Lauri+youngins and delayed their tank or #2 they actually thought they had a winner and now they’ve pivoted to tanking bc winning didn’t work. Either they had a plan all along but executed poorly or they had a bad plan, it didn’t work, then they switched it.

My first choice would be to move forward with Lauri and build around him. My second choice would be to move him and start over. My least favorite choice is to keep Lauri, but basically operate as if he’s not there and repeatedly wave the middle finger at him.

Interesting to look back at this…I feel like if the plan is to move forward and build around Lauri, they are doing a pretty bad job….basically done nothing.

With all the opportunities passing by, the best option is to rebuild. Lauri+tank is still somewhat a viable option, but they’d need to make a Sexton trade.

And of course, it depends on what the offers on the table actually are.

 

[sip]

Interesting to look back at this…I feel like if the plan is to move forward and build around Lauri, they are doing a pretty bad job….basically done nothing.

With all the opportunities passing by, the best option is to rebuild. Lauri+tank is still somewhat a viable option, but they’d need to make a Sexton trade.

And of course, it depends on what the offers on the table actually are.

The good news now is that even if we keep Lauri I still think we are a bottom 2 team in the west. Most likely last in the west because I do like what the blazers did on draft night.

 

[cctrackstar]

you have to understand my fandom. i really latch on to players who we either pick ourselves and develop or players that come here voluntarily. since very few players come here on their own, i lean heavily on draft picks. when we trade a ton of assets for a pre-made star, it is hard for me to bond to them, i don't have all the history of watching them grow. add to that the fact that i think losing on purpose is cheating, i accept that it is going to be hard to get a superstar player with anything more than luck. even with that, i would rather go with who we have and enjoy the ride than tank for picks,

 

[hgb]

I say we keep and extend Lauri and trade JC² for Zach Lavine and a pick and go for it.

 

[hgb]

I say we keep and extend Lauri and trade JC² for Zach Lavine and a pick and go for it.

That's hardly a contender, but could be a pretty good regular season team, which might get all the young guys a run of some playoff ball to get them going.

 

[Jazzman12]

The Jazz should have went full-on rebuild from the get go but instead they’ve half assed it for 2 straight seasons and it’s costing them. I wasn’t psyched about bringing Ainge in but after the Rudy&Don hauls I started to come around. Now, I’m back to thinking he was a bad idea and it’s certainly starting to look like he’s botching the rebuild.

I ****ing love Lauri and all of the trade speculation is killing me but Ainge has played us into a corner in which a Tank+Lauri season makes zero sense for the team or the player and there just doesn’t appear to be the seismic move available that would be necessary to load up around Lauri and start trudging up the Western Conference mountain.

At this point, the only realistic play that makes sense for the Jazz long term is to turn Lauri into as many future assets as possible, commit to featuring our EXTREMELY young roster, and hope for the first time ever that the ping pong balls bounce Utah’s way and Cooper Flagg bails out Ainge and Ryan Smith for the countless missteps they’ve made since getting a king’s ransom for their 2 stars.

What’s scary about that move is that even though it’s probably the right way to go, it could still blow up in their faces and how much longer do we go through this before fans start losing interest? I can honestly say that I’m already at my most apathetic towards the Jazz in 40 years of fandom.

Aside from rolling the dice and hitting on Flagg, I worry that the only way this rebuild ends up successful at this point is if 1 or 2 of the players selected from these past 2 drafts shocks the world and turns out to be the next Giannis or Jokic. That’s a pretty depressing thought considering the start this rebuild got off to.