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No thread about the Filipowski fiasco?

Jazz Spazz said:
lol, you are funny. With the mishmash of info and gossip we can’t even tell how old the girlfriend is let alone any series of events based on heresy turned into social media soap boxes. I have only seen conjecture with that doesn’t seem to add up, and 2 angry relatives. Tbh, I’ve seen angry relatives when people join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in so many situations and say some pretty terrible things.

Sure grooming exists in the dictionary. Did it happen here? His brother thinks so but it’s an accusation with no data.

People who want to see the worst will see the worst. Confirmation bias. Congrats.
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“Sure grooming exists in the dictionary.”

Yikes.
 
str8line said:
Pretty obvious he was groomed. Sucks for him that he hasn't and won't get to find himself. She'll be having babies in no time and he'll have gone from child to parent without living his own life. It's a tragedy really and someday he'll pay her back by trading her in for a girl 15 years younger.
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Eh, he might really be happy, who are any of us to say differently. In the end he has to figure stuff out. And if she is the one, crazy eyes and all, then good for him.

I got married 5 months after returning from my mission. Married like the 3rd person I had ever dated seriously, no experience with nothing except a single year away at college in Phoenix. 21 years old, she was 23, met on our missions. The stuff of fairy tales for the mormon world. We had no ****ing clue who we were or what we really wanted. Now married over 32 years, 4 kids, 2 GKs. I wouldn't change a single thing, except maybe wait a bit longer to have kids (1st kid born 1 month to the day before our first anniversary). Sometimes you don't find yourself as much as make a life for yourself. Actively choosing is better than wandering around and hoping for the best. In the end it is all a series of choices. As long as you recognize that and can accept, live with, and hopefully be happy with, the consequences of your choices, that is all that matters in this life. Not one of my kids went the way we expected or hoped, but they are all well-adjusted, generally happy and self-sufficient adults. That is all we could hope for on that front too.

Hopefully Flip is happy in his situation and can make the best of it, if that is what he chooses. Hell my first big crush was 4 years older than me, when I was 13-15 and I was convinced we would get married. And when I turned 15 we dated for half a year or so, seemed like forever at that age. I thought that was it, we were destined to be together, but she was going away to college, then she went on a mission. So that fell apart then. My 2nd was almost the exact opposite, 3 years younger when I was 17 and she was 14. We were inseparable for 2 years, and she was genuinely who I thought I would marry before I met my current wife. Hell the whole ward thought we were destined to marry. It was actually kind of a big shock for a lot of people that we didn't. But at those ages you have no idea what love is, how it feels, and you fall deep and hard for the ones you love. It doesn't mean it cannot transform into something real and long-lasting. To this day I cannot tell you why I ended up with my current wife, but I am very happy I did. And even then, at 21, I had no clue what love really was or what it took to hold a marriage together. But we learned, and worked at it, and, well, so far, so good.

If something comes out that shows grooming when he was 15 beyond just a couple of young people falling in love, despite the age difference, then that might be different. In the meantime, if he is happy with it, and she is happy with it, that is all that matters and we really can't say **** about it.
 
Jazzman12 said:
“Sure grooming exists in the dictionary.”

Yikes.
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My point is, I’ve seen nothing in these posts or online that show grooming other than an angry brother making accusations. Angry people can say all sorts of things to inflict pain that aren’t real or are a stretch even if they come from a place of real pain.

Does that mean grooming? I don’t see the evidence or even any real data points than link together in that direction with so much conflicting info(gossip)?

So, if you know so much and know it’s grooming, please walk me through this, or are you just another one that heard the words grooming and Mormon together in a sentence and said “yep, sounds right”.

Yikes.
 
HermanG said:
The story has now been out for a little less than a week... has there been new evidence or others close to Kyle who have stepped forward to support the claims of his mother and brother?
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Kyle himself probably doesn't know all this is going on because his handler girlfriend canceled his screen time.

All I know is - good looking 25 year old women always tend to fall head over heels for teenage boys seven years younger than them. It's just how it goes. You can't fight true love.
 
str8line said:
Pretty obvious he was groomed. Sucks for him that he hasn't and won't get to find himself. She'll be having babies in no time and he'll have gone from child to parent without living his own life. It's a tragedy really and someday he'll pay her back by trading her in for a girl 15 years younger.
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How is it obvious? How about you post why you think it’s obvious. I’m clearly not trolling the same waters you are.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Kyle himself probably doesn't know all this is going on because his handler girlfriend canceled his screen time.

All I know is - good looking 25 year old women always tend to fall head over heels for teenage boys seven years younger than them. It's just how it goes. You can't fight true love.
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Are you an expert? Looking for someone with tremendous upside are you?
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Kyle himself probably doesn't know all this is going on because his handler girlfriend canceled his screen time.

All I know is - good looking 25 year old women always tend to fall head over heels for teenage boys seven years younger than them. It's just how it goes. You can't fight true love.
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Yeah you are right. Young good looking college athletes usually only date hags.

Good job, Sherlock.
 
HermanG said:
Yeah you are right. Young good looking college athletes usually only date hags.

Good job, Sherlock.
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Yeah, not that I dont think grooming is a serious issue, but I just have a hard time believing that a 6'11 20 year old who is already a millionaire is being manipulated. I would imagine Filipowski's entire teenage life he probably had decent success with women. If he wanted to leave his woman, he could probably have his choice of a number of women. He chose. Yeah it's weird, but there is no rule that you arent allowed to date someone you knew before you became legal.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, not that I dont think grooming is a serious issue, but I just have a hard time believing that a 6'11 20 year old who is already a millionaire is being manipulated. I would imagine Filipowski's entire teenage life he probably had decent success with women. If he wanted to leave his woman, he could probably have his choice of a number of women. He chose. Yeah it's weird, but there is no rule that you arent allowed to date someone you knew before you became legal.
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Besides gold digging isnt illegal. If that is even the case here. Could be that they just love each other...
 
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