Conspiracy Theory Corner

[The Midnight]

How many players in this draft will be top 20 players at any point in their career and how long will it take them to become that?

The reality might be that Lauri takes another step, Sexton takes another step, Walker takes a big step, and the the rest of the players also progress. The fact might be the Jazz are too good to tank.

Can you see us ever being good enough with BI and Lauri to take on Minny, OKC and DEN?

Didn’t think so.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Can you see us ever being good enough with BI and Lauri to take on Minny, OKC and DEN?

Didn’t think so.

Yeah, why not? I dont think any of those teams are unbeatable. They also still have a ton of picks coming in and can make more trades.

Do you see the Jazz tanking and being better than Wemby in 4 years when he is starting to peak with his superpowers and the eventual star who will want to team up with him?

 

[The Midnight]

You are dealing with the probability that the 2025 draft pick we can get with Lauri playing is going to be a better player than Ingram within Lauri's contract. I love the 2025 draft, but I'm not sure that probability is very high.

Tanking with Lauri is potentially problematic because I don't think you can just flip a switch and we're going to be good in 2026. We will have just as many reasons, if not more to be worse in 2026 than 2025, and then at that point we are talking about trying to be good in 2027? Are we really going to ask Lauri to be THAT patient?

FWIW, I'm not necessarily pro go get Ingram, but I would understand it if the FO got him on a good deal, and would be happy that we might be working towards a good team sooner than later.

You sit down with Lauri and tell him here’s your $30m, but would you kindly sit the final 30 games of the season with “calf strain” for us.

My take is he will likely say yes.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You sit down with Lauri and tell him here’s your $30m, but would you kindly sit the final 30 games of the season with “calf strain” for us.

My take is he will likely say yes.

You need him to sit the first 30 games....

 

[The Midnight]

You need him to sit the first 30 games....

Well whichever, or even 50 games wouldn’t hurt.

 

[HermanG]

Who has space next year and would want to sign Ingram to a big deal? I guess San Antonio would be the biggest competition?

Not sure of all possible teams but Spurs, Hornets and Detroit seem to have space and if Houston likes Reed + Amen enough they may not excercise FVV 44M club option for 2025/26.

However they got decissions coming up like Sengun and Jalen Green for instance.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Not sure of all possible teams but Spurs, Hornets and Detroit seem to have space and if Houston likes Reed + Amen enough they may not excercise FVV 44M club option for 2025/26.

However they got decissions coming up like Jalen Green for instance.

Yeah, I know Houston cant pay him when they have to pay Senguin and Green.

I dont think Detroit/Hornets make sense for him at all. I dont see why either team would want to max him given they both have wings who are highly paid/high usage.

I think it basically comes down to the Spurs and Jazz if the Jazz had him.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think Lauri kind of unlocks Ingram in a sense since Lauri is a star who doesnt need the ball that much, so it allows Ingram to be an on-ball guy. When he plays with Zion, Zion needs the ball and Ingram isnt as good.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

OK, new wrinkle.

The Jazz trade Collins/Kessler for Ingram. This gives the Pelicans everything they want to round out their depth. They get two different playstyle options at the 5 to help Zion.

Then the Jazz turnaround and trade Clarkson for Robert Williams.


The Blazers drafted Clingan and have Ayton on the roster. They have a massive longjam at the 5. Robert Williams is ultra talented.



Just look at this BPM stats for his career. Elite stuff. He just can't stay healthy.

Can you get Robert Williams for Clarkson and a handful of 2nds/Brice Sensabaugh?

Yeah, it's a huge gamble, but you build a team without giving up a single future asset. A healthy Robert Williams laps Kessler IMO.

 

[HermanG]

Yeah, I know Houston cant pay him when they have to pay Senguin and Green.

I dont think Detroit/Hornets make sense for him at all. I dont see why either team would want to max him given they both have wings who are highly paid/high usage.

I think it basically comes down to the Spurs and Jazz if the Jazz had him.

Houston has to figure out if they wanna commit big money on Green as they got plenty of guards coming up behind him.

If they believe Amen is their guy then Green isnt exactly a great fit... but they also got Whitmore and Reed so they may not care about adding a guy at all.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And yes, building a team with Brandon Ingram and Robert Williams is building a house of cards, but damn, it is talented.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Houston has to figure out if they wanna commit big money on Green as they got plenty of guards coming up behind him.

If they believe Amen is their guy then Green isnt exactly a great fit... but they also got Whitmore and Reed so they may not care about adding a guy at all.

It's just so rare teams dont re-sign their RFA who they picked top 3 overall and has shown improvement.