Which Will Be Easier: Competing for a Title

[SoberasHotRod]

I personally don't believe you should base personnel decisions based off of this stuff.

However, to answer the question I went with 28-30 being more difficult to win a title. Not only is Wemby potentially an all time great, you might be dealing with peak OKC if they build that right. OKC is going to be really good as soon as next year, but just imagine when Chet and Jalen are at their peak. Then you have the 2015 and 2016 draft class that could be all time greats starting to make their teams better. The league is going to continue to have tons of talent.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I personally don't believe you should base personnel decisions based off of this stuff.

However, to answer the question I went with 28-30 being more difficult to win a title. Not only is Wemby potentially an all time great, you might be dealing with peak OKC if they build that right. OKC is going to be really good as soon as next year, but just imagine when Chet and Jalen are at their peak. Then you have the 2015 and 2016 draft class that could be all time greats starting to make their teams better. The league is going to continue to have tons of talent.

I'm just asking a question. I'm not even asking anyone to think about it through the Utah Jazz, just in general.

I think the next 3 years will have more parity than the following. I think the next 3 rings are up for grabs. After that it *might* be Wemby's league.

 

[fishonjazz]

Scared to answer it seems

Ya. I have a hard time answering questions that I find irrelevant

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, it's not guarantee the West is any less strong in those following 3 years while Wemby is in his 2nd contract. It might be just as strong with the behemoth Spurs/Wemby at the top. Another reason why I think the clear answer is the next 3 years.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I'm just asking a question. I'm not even asking anyone to think about it through the Utah Jazz, just in general.

I think the next 3 years will have more parity than the following. I think the next 3 rings are up for grabs. After that it *might* be Wemby's league.

If OKC is willing to spend money, then they are going to be tough for even Wemby to overthrow. They did what they did this year with Chet in year 1 and Jalen in year 2, crazy.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Thats fine. But anointing this guy as the next Hakeem is laughable. That’s essentially what Cy is doing. So much more goes into being elite at a sport than having the talent and skill. And so more goes into being elite as a team than one player…who isn’t even elite yet.

It's not that laughable and it's what a lot of people think. Many smart people think he's All-NBA next season.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yeah, cuz they tanked. You think not playing a point guard for half the year and using a ****** point guard for the other half of the year was an accident?

I have been told you can't tank when you have a really good player.
Maybe Lauri is just way better than wemby idk

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[Miggs]

You think it’s more likely a recent MVP (one of the greatest two-way players ever) and one the greatest shooters of all time become available for two premium future-facing assets, each? Lauri also isn’t quite as good as Paul Pierce (Pierce was super clutch).

It’s worth noting that strategy hasn’t worked since.

His only question mark is health. It’s a big question mark, but he’s the surest thing since Lebron and it’s not close.

That’s not the only question mark. We have no idea how much more he’ll develop. Or if studs will join him. Or if his play translates to serious wins. Or even if it does, of he has the mental makeup to win postseason games or if he’ll fold like Karl Malone. Or if Pops retires (it’s certainly possible the next 3-4 years), they’ll be able to replace him with someone so competent. Or even if he doesn’t retire, we no longer see a great Pops and instead get more of a sliver much like we did with Sloan the last couple years.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If OKC is willing to spend money, then they are going to be tough for even Wemby to overthrow. They did what they did this year with Chet in year 1 and Jalen in year 2, crazy.

They likely wont be willing to spend like the Clippers/Warriors have been spending.

 

[Miggs]

It's not that laughable and it's what a lot of people think. Many smart people think he's All-NBA next season.

Gobert was all NBA. How many titles has he won?

 

[fishonjazz]

They're both microscopic likelihoods.

Agreed.
The moves we have made over the last 3 years have all been geared towards tanking though so I think we should just complete this step before moving to the next step.


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[fishonjazz]

His only question mark is health. It’s a big question mark, but he’s the surest thing since Lebron and it’s not close.

Man, a player that good would definitely be impossible to tank with unless he missed tons of games to injury.

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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I just asked if its easier to compete now or later

Ya it’s a dumb question and strange someone as smart as you would ask it. The answer is obvious and you voted the wrong answer.

 

[jazznik]

Who are we talking about? The Celtics, Timberwolves, Mavs?

Because the Jazz will not compete for a title in the next three years. All they have is a good SF who never played in the playoffs and a tiny, defensively challenged SG, who also never made the playoffs. And a bunch of rough young players. That's it.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Gobert was all NBA. How many titles has he won?

Ok, you're just going to be a dumbass for the sake of being a dumbass.

 

[fishonjazz]

I just asked if its easier to compete now or later.

basically do you think its easier to compete against a loaded field, but no top end dynasty type team, or against Wemby, who could very well be a dynasty type team in the years I listed.

I think it's easier to compete when you have one of the best teams in the league.
I think our best chance to have one of the best teams in the league is not in the next 3 years.

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[Miggs]

Ok, you're just going to be a dumbass for the sake of being a dumbass.

I’m not. You’ve made up your mind. He’s the second coming. My points are quite clear. A ton goes into being the next “top ten player of all-time” than his talent and staying healthy.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think it's easier to compete when you have one of the best teams in the league.
I think our best chance to have one of the best teams in the league is not in the next 3 years.

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Ok, keep dodging the question and making up your own question if it makes you feel better.

 

[fishonjazz]

I personally don't believe you should base personnel decisions based off of this stuff.

However, to answer the question I went with 28-30 being more difficult to win a title. Not only is Wemby potentially an all time great, you might be dealing with peak OKC if they build that right. OKC is going to be really good as soon as next year, but just imagine when Chet and Jalen are at their peak. Then you have the 2015 and 2016 draft class that could be all time greats starting to make their teams better. The league is going to continue to have tons of talent.

Ya this kind of thinking is dumb because it is never ending. Hall of Fame level players will always be leaving and entering the NBA

Just build the best team you can.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

I’m not. You’ve made up your mind. He’s the second coming. My points are quite clear. A ton goes into being the next “top ten player of all-time” than his talent and staying healthy.

Ahh yes, the making up health concerns based on nothing. Keep the hits coming.