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Our economy, for better or worse, is dependent on constant expansion. Birthrates are down, so...

I wonder, though, how people balance their dislike of immigration with their positivity towards higher levels of procreation domestically. There's a small difference in those two things, of course, for instance, the immigrants are less likely to commit crimes, will generally be more willing and able to do some of the harder jobs compared to Tiffany and Brian's 17 year old princess Lillaphanneigh who only needs a job to pay for the insurance on the car her parents bought for her. Lillaphanneigh's parents are practicing tough love, you see, making her pay for her own insurance on her Mercedes.
This first point is especially interesting. We already are facing a retirement crisis as the baby-boomers work their way onto social security, and it is widely known to be a reverse pyramid right now with not enough people at the bottom paying in to support the structure, since we have allowed politicians to ransack SS funding all these decades. Adding entry-level workers to the work force will be a net positive in this regard.
 
Why did immigration trends drop dramatically half a year before the election? Do people not want to come to America anymore?
Why did immigration trends spike to all time levels when Biden was elected?

COVID. COVID. COVID. How many times does this need to be said?

You can't just ignore the worst global pandemic in a century and pretend it had no effect on immigration, economy, inflation...everything. Including the very league that caused this forum to exist. The Lakers and their Mickey Mouse bubble "championship."
 
COVID. COVID. COVID. How many times does this need to be said?

You can't just ignore the worst global pandemic in a century and pretend it had no effect on immigration, economy, inflation...everything. Including the very league that caused this forum to exist. The Lakers and their Mickey Mouse bubble "championship."
There was no economic opportunity here during COVID. With everything shut down where were these folks going to work?

Oh wait, I get it. Some people think that immigrants come here to live the sweet life off of handouts. Those people have no idea how the majority of government benefits work and that an undocumented immigrant doesn't qualify for the vast majority of them, especially the ones that give you actual food or cash (EBT).
 
Immigration is a boon for the economy illegal or not. Always has been.
And it’s one of the major reasons why our country is prospering so much.

If Donald gets his way, 6 percent of the country’s population will be deported/killed (which is typically what happens with forced relocations). Wonder what that’ll do to our economy? Hate grocery prices now? Just wait until most of those who work in agriculture are deported/dead.

It’s incredibly ironic that those who whine the most about their forgotten towns are the ones who’ll be hit the most economically with one of trump’s only consistent thoughts, getting rid of brown people. In many ways I hope MAGA gets what they’re asking for. They truly deserve more tax cuts for folks like Elon Musk, destruction of social security, and the economic destruction of their communities. But they’re too stupid/stubborn to admit that they’re wrong. Just as we saw with Covid, they’ll gladly get sick for Trump as long as it means being an oppositional defiant child to liberals trying to be the adults of the country.
 
There was no economic opportunity here during COVID. With everything shut down where were these folks going to work?

Oh wait, I get it. Some people think that immigrants come here to live the sweet life off of handouts. Those people have no idea how the majority of government benefits work and that an undocumented immigrant doesn't qualify for the vast majority of them, especially the ones that give you actual food or cash (EBT).
I’ve cited a CATO study before (they’re not liberal) first generation immigrants produce much more economically than non-college educated (native) whites. Perhaps the focus in America needs to shift from demonizing brown people to the complete and utter moral collapse of non-college educated whites? If you aren’t going to college or learning a trade, what are you doing with your life? They’re not filling the jobs that immigrants are filling.

One of the factory owners in Springfield talked about how the Haitian immigrant workers always showed up on time, worked hard, and weren’t always drunk/high.

I wish I had 30 more. Our Haitian associates come to work every day. They don't have a drug problem. They will stay at their machine. They will achieve their numbers. They are here to work. And so, in general, that's a stark difference from what were used to in our community.

Obviously, he’d had some bad experiences before. Non-college/trade school educated whites have Gotta do something other than bitch about immigrants and suck off the government teet until they eventually blow their heads off with guns or die of OD. The older I get the more I see their plight as a moral Issue, not an economic one. They just shouldn’t see certain jobs as being “beneath them.” Nor should they be so damn lazy. My grandparents made two major moves in their lives, 1) to escape the dust bowl to California 2) to retain their jobs with the army, they left the Bay Area to work at the Tooele Army Depot. I’m sure they missed their friends and family in the Midwest to start new lives in California. And I’m sure moving from the Napa Valley to Tooele in the 1960s as non-Mormons must’ve been a shock. And if you go far enough back, I’m sure my ancestors hated leaving Italy to start a new life here. I’m sure leaving it was difficult for my mom’s ancestors to settle upstate New York, convert to Mormonism, and then travel all over Missouri, Illinois, and settle in Utah (one of my ancestors buried his wife and newborn in Wyoming). But non-lazy people have been re-inventing themselves and moving to where jobs and opportunity are since the dawn of time.

To see many in america whine about being victims while doing nothing to improve their situation really bugs me. Too much entitlement, its origins coming from the collapse of reconstruction when poor whites relied on their skin color to feel superior despite being just as poor as many immigrants and newly freed blacks. Our country is seeing incredible wealth and prosperity. If you’re “stuck” in some dumpster fire of a town, try moving out. Try going to school. Improve your situation. Don’t just bitch about it and hope a strongman fixes everything by deporting people who actually are trying to improve themselves and the communities they live in.



 
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And it’s one of the major reasons why our country is prospering so much.

If Donald gets his way, 6 percent of the country’s population will be deported/killed (which is typically what happens with forced relocations). Wonder what that’ll do to our economy? Hate grocery prices now? Just wait until most of those who work in agriculture are deported/dead.

It’s incredibly ironic that those who whine the most about their forgotten towns are the ones who’ll be hit the most economically with one of trump’s only consistent thoughts, getting rid of brown people. In many ways I hope MAGA gets what they’re asking for. They truly deserve more tax cuts for folks like Elon Musk, destruction of social security, and the economic destruction of their communities. But they’re too stupid/stubborn to admit that they’re wrong. Just as we saw with Covid, they’ll gladly get sick for Trump as long as it means being an oppositional defiant child to liberals trying to be the adults of the country.
Well the thing is that if the things trump does actually ends up hurting the economy it will take time for those consequences to really effect us at maximum strength. Right about when the next president takes over. So they can simply blame whoever that is instead of trump.

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I’ve cited a CATO study before (they’re not liberal) first generation immigrants produce much more economically than non-college educated (native) whites. Perhaps the focus in America needs to shift from demonizing brown people to the complete and utter moral collapse of non-college educated whites? If you aren’t going to college or learning a trade, what are you doing with your life? They’re not filling the jobs that immigrants are filling.

One of the factory owners in Springfield talked about how the Haitian immigrant workers always showed up on time, worked hard, and weren’t always drunk/high.

I wish I had 30 more. Our Haitian associates come to work every day. They don't have a drug problem. They will stay at their machine. They will achieve their numbers. They are here to work. And so, in general, that's a stark difference from what were used to in our community.

Obviously, he’d had some bad experiences before. Non-college/trade school educated whites have Gotta do something other than bitch about immigrants and suck off the government teet until they eventually blow their heads off with guns or die of OD. The older I get the more I see their plight as a moral Issue, not an economic one. They just shouldn’t see certain jobs as being “beneath them.” Nor should they be so damn lazy. My grandparents made two major moves in their lives, 1) to escape the dust bowl to California 2) to retain their jobs with the army, they left the Bay Area to work at the Tooele Army Depot. I’m sure they missed their friends and family in the Midwest to start new lives in California. And I’m sure moving from the Napa Valley to Tooele in the 1960s as non-Mormons must’ve been a shock. And if you go far enough back, I’m sure my ancestors hated leaving Italy to start a new life here. I’m sure leaving it was difficult for my mom’s ancestors to settle upstate New York, convert to Mormonism, and then travel all over Missouri, Illinois, and settle in Utah (one of my ancestors buried his wife and newborn in Wyoming). But non-lazy people have been re-inventing themselves and moving to where jobs and opportunity are since the dawn of time.

To see many in america whine about being victims while doing nothing to improve their situation really bugs me. Too much entitlement, its origins coming from the collapse of reconstruction when poor whites relied on their skin color to feel superior despite being just as poor as many immigrants and newly freed blacks. Our country is seeing incredible wealth and prosperity. If you’re “stuck” in some dumpster fire of a town, try moving out. Try going to school. Improve your situation. Don’t just bitch about it and hope a strongman fixes everything by deporting people who actually are trying to improve themselves and the communities they live in.



We have quite a few people from Venezuela at my work (probably around 15 or so out of about 250 hourly) and they are the best workers at the facility imo. That's my honest, impartial assessment. Really friendly, work hard, always show up, and seem to like their job more than most other people.

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We have quite a few people from Venezuela at my work (probably around 15 or so out of about 250 hourly) and they are the best workers at the facility imo. That's my honest, impartial assessment. Really friendly, work hard, always show up, and seem to like their job more than most other people.

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People tend to behave differently when they don't have that sense of entitlement and complacency that comes with long-term prosperity and privilege. Hence why so many of us are straight up assholes.
 
Rounding up immigrants is his in to using the military against his own people. At that point protests by citizens will most likely see military intervention, which he wanted to do during his first term. Then things could go off the rails with jailing of press members or anyone who stands up to him. It sounds hard to believe but I think it will happen if he wins.
 
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