Are the Jazz Not Bad?

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wins in the preseason don’t mean anything, and if they did, it’s not like we’re going to see the Jazz team we saw tonight for the whole year. I’m sure Hardy could scrap together a 35ish win team if the goal was to win as many games as possible. It’s not.

Not about the wins, just how players are playing.

 

[KqWIN]

Not about the wins, just how players are playing.

Those go hand in hand. But I’ll just rephrase, preseason performance doesn’t mean anything for regular season wins.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

You’re too excitable.

You know you're a troll and you lean in.... that's the worst dimension of your generally ****** online demeanor.

 

[MTS]

You know you're a troll and you lean in.... that's the worst dimension of your generally ****** online demeanor.

My thing with him is, if you're gonna play the role of acting like you're smarter than everybody else and putting everybody else down for it, the least you could do is get basic facts right so that people aren't constantly having to correct you.

Weird dude.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

My thing with him is, if you're gonna play the role of acting like you're smarter than everybody else and putting everybody else down for it, the least you could do is get basic facts right so that people aren't constantly having to correct you.

Weird dude.

The only solid evidence we have for how weird he is: he's been entertained by trolling this website for over a decade. Nothing he says can be taken at face value. It's all troll-value.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Look we aren't incompetent and we aren't talentless. We will win 25 games +-2 games. The stars will be managed. The youth will be played. There will be many experiments. Soreness, tightness, and contusions will be managed aggressively.

If you needed a sign... the classic @Saint Cy of JFC declaration in preseason that will surely be wrong has just been presented to all of us. I wish it was more bold and had more bravado... cuz then I would think for sure we were bottom 4.

But for real. I think we understand the assignment. The schedule should be rough to start the season. The West is competitive as it has ever been. When Hardy/Ainge decided we were tanking last year they executed brilliantly. We got this.

 

[JimLes]

The Jazz don't play games in a vacuum. It's not just about how bad or good we are, but how good or bad other teams are. There are at least 6-7 teams in the East simply worse than the Jazz, and most of them actively tanking. The West may be tougher, but there are still bad teams like the Blazers and the Spurs, and others who are probably not better than the Jazz like the Rockets or even the Grizzlies.

Then there are so many aging teams with bloated overall salaries and no improvement from last year that the bottom just has to fall out for some of them. The Suns won 49 games, the Lakers won 47, the Clippers won 51. All 3 got older and all 3 arguably got worse. The Clippers would be my bet to finish with under 35 wins, but any of these could do it.

Barring a situation where both Lauri and Collin tear their ACLs, it's really hard to see the Jazz be worse than all the bad teams in the East or even some of these over-the-hill teams in the West. The Jazz can take the loss of their 4th or 5th best player and just plug in another young prospect. The Suns would be starting G-Leaguers at that point.

 

[KqWIN]

Look we aren't incompetent and we aren't talentless. We will win 25 games +-2 games. The stars will be managed. The youth will be played. There will be many experiments. Soreness, tightness, and contusions will be managed aggressively.

If you needed a sign... the classic @Saint Cy of JFC declaration in preseason that will surely be wrong has just been presented to all of us. I wish it was more bold and had more bravado... cuz then I would think for sure we were bottom 4.

But for real. I think we understand the assignment. The schedule should be rough to start the season. The West is competitive as it has ever been. When Hardy/Ainge decided we were tanking last year they executed brilliantly. We got this.

This is where I’ve been at all summer. Welcome.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Look we aren't incompetent and we aren't talentless. We will win 25 games +-2 games. The stars will be managed. The youth will be played. There will be many experiments. Soreness, tightness, and contusions will be managed aggressively.

If you needed a sign... the classic @Saint Cy of JFC declaration in preseason that will surely be wrong has just been presented to all of us. I wish it was more bold and had more bravado... cuz then I would think for sure we were bottom 4.

But for real. I think we understand the assignment. The schedule should be rough to start the season. The West is competitive as it has ever been. When Hardy/Ainge decided we were tanking last year they executed brilliantly. We got this.

I agree they understand, but every win/loss matters if you want the top 5 odds. I just dont think this team has that level of suck in them for 82 games.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Jazz don't play games in a vacuum. It's not just about how bad or good we are, but how good or bad other teams are. There are at least 6-7 teams in the East simply worse than the Jazz, and most of them actively tanking. The West may be tougher, but there are still bad teams like the Blazers and the Spurs, and others who are probably not better than the Jazz like the Rockets or even the Grizzlies.

Then there are so many aging teams with bloated overall salaries and no improvement from last year that the bottom just has to fall out for some of them. The Suns won 49 games, the Lakers won 47, the Clippers won 51. All 3 got older and all 3 arguably got worse. The Clippers would be my bet to finish with under 35 wins, but any of these could do it.

Barring a situation where both Lauri and Collin tear their ACLs, it's really hard to see the Jazz be worse than all the bad teams in the East or even some of these over-the-hill teams in the West. The Jazz can take the loss of their 4th or 5th best player and just plug in another young prospect. The Suns would be starting G-Leaguers at that point.

Yeah, I really dont see the Jazz losing to the Clippers at home, especially if there is any kind of rest advantage that favors the Jazz, even possibly without Lauri.

But maybe that's where Utah FO/CS will come in and sit Sexton/Lauri/Clarkson just ensure those are losses...

 

[bigmike]

Far too talented to tank unless barring more trade deadline shenanigans.

 

[framer]

I don't think people understand what playing in the Western conference with a rotation heavy with 1st and 2nd year players looks like. It looks a lot like last year's Portland team.