Game Thread Oct 28, 2024 06:30PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Dallas Mavericks

[jom2003]

Wheels falling off for Key... Again team worse -10 on 33% shooting. Tanking or not he simply does not deserve playing a team high 37min. We gotta do something about him and Clarkson soon. It's simply a lose-lose situation for both.

 

[nateboz]

Watching Flip was nice. He plays big. He's kind of got that d**kh**d personality that the Jazz were missing.

 

[KqWIN]

I don't know when Juzang will be back, but those could be his minutes as well.

 

[enchilada_style]

It's going to take additional months just to trust his leg even after its fully healed. Tough break, really feel bad for Taylor.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Meh, I'm an optimist. I full expect to have Hendricks back in time for the playoffs. . .

In that case… I have some investments I’d like to pitch to you.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't know when Juzang will be back, but those could be his minutes as well.

If Juzang effs up the tank this night will be even more devastating. Don’t let Johnny in… dude won’t miss.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Can’t we take the leg bone from his crappy twin brother and just use it. Like why aren’t we doing this **** yet. I’m so frustrated right now.

 

[fishonjazz]

I like Keyonte's game tonight. He played hard, played with pace and kept his TOs under control. Another shot or two goes down and he's over 20 pts. Finished with 17/5/5

But those numbers are based on 37 minutes and lots of touches.
Basically anyone who touches the ball as much as key and plays 37 minutes is going to get some numbers.
I need some efficiency.

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[MT Steve]

But those numbers are based on 37 minutes and lots of touches.
Basically anyone who touches the ball as much as key and plays 37 minutes is going to get some numbers.
I need some efficiency.

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A lot of his misses were while going fullspeed at the rim, which I think he'll learn to finish better on.

 

[fishonjazz]

A lot of his misses were while going fullspeed at the rim, which I think he'll learn to finish better on.

Fingers crossed!

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[Zombie]

Just heard the Hendricks news, man sports suck sometimes.

He was the one guy I was most excited to watch develop this season.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

But those numbers are based on 37 minutes and lots of touches.
Basically anyone who touches the ball as much as key and plays 37 minutes is going to get some numbers.
I need some efficiency.

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Yeah, but if you watched the game, saw how dependent the Jazz were on Keyonte to force action, and saw how aggressively the Mavs' were guarding, it makes sense. The problem is that Key is being asked to create offense for everyone. The Jazz have a floor full of people who need to be set up. Lauri, Walker, Hendricks, Collins, etc.--none of them can create for themselves.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yeah, but if you watched the game, saw how dependent the Jazz were on Keyonte to force action, and saw how aggressively the Mavs' were guarding, it makes sense. The problem is that Key is being asked to create offense for everyone. The Jazz have a floor full of people who need to be set up. Lauri, Walker, Hendricks, Collins, etc.--none of them can create for themselves.

Ya I watched the game.
I saw how dependent the jazz were on sexton to force action when he was in the game and saw how aggressively the Mavs were guarding him.
Sexton is always on the floor with people who need to be set up.

That's why sexton was only 9-11 with 23 points. (Only 27 minutes)

Look key has tools. He is young. He will almost certainly get better.

But he was very inefficient in college and he was very inefficient last season and he has been very inefficient this season.
And his defense is poor. And his assist to turnover ratio is poor. It is what it is. He is simply a player who looks like he could/should be good someday. That's about it right now

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[MT Steve]

Ya I watched the game.
I saw how dependent the jazz were on sexton to force action when he was in the game and saw how aggressively the Mavs were guarding him.
Sexton is always on the floor with people who need to be set up.

That's why sexton was only 9-11 with 23 points. (Only 27 minutes)

Look key has tools. He is young. He will almost certainly get better.

But he was very inefficient in college and he was very inefficient last season and he has been very inefficient this season.
And his defense is poor. And his assist to turnover ratio is poor. It is what it is. He is simply a player who looks like he could/should be good someday. That's about it right now

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Sexton the last two years has lowkey been a ridiculously efficient scorer. He's amazing.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Ya I watched the game.
I saw how dependent the jazz were on sexton to force action when he was in the game and saw how aggressively the Mavs were guarding him.
Sexton is always on the floor with people who need to be set up.

That's why sexton was only 9-11 with 23 points. (Only 27 minutes)

Look key has tools. He is young. He will almost certainly get better.

But he was very inefficient in college and he was very inefficient last season and he has been very inefficient this season.
And his defense is poor. And his assist to turnover ratio is poor. It is what it is. He is simply a player who looks like he could/should be good someday. That's about it right now

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Sexton is good. He was our best scorer tonight. He's not a natural distributor though. He had 2 assists total, despite having high usage. Sexton defers to Keyonte to initiate the offense.

 

[fishonjazz]

Sexton is good. He was our best scorer tonight. He's not a natural distributor though. He had 2 assists total, despite having high usage. Sexton defers to Keyonte to initiate the offense.

Are you trying to say that if keyonte and Sexton switched roles then keyonte would be efficient?

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Are you trying to say that if keyonte and Sexton switched roles then keyonte would be efficient?

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I'm saying Keyonte is being tasked with running the offense and setting guys up, while Sexton isn't asked to do those things nearly as much. Sexton is considered a 2-guard.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm saying Keyonte is being tasked with running the offense and setting guys up, while Sexton isn't asked to do those things nearly as much. Sexton is considered a 2-guard.

I'm saying keyonte is, and always has been, inefficient in every role he has been in at the college and pro level. Regardless of role, teammates, opponents. You can provide all kinds of reasons for it and that's fine, but it still remains true.
Eventually, either the ball needs to go on the hoop more frequently, or he needs to shoot less, or he needs to set his teammates up better, or he needs to turn the ball over less. Or some combination of those things.

If none of those things happen then it's a problem

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[jom2003]

Watching Flip was nice. He plays big. He's kind of got that d**kh**d personality that the Jazz were missing.

We can try run some King's Sabonis play for him and see what we've got. So far I'm not sold on any of our backcourt guys running the offense. Absolute **** show

 

[KqWIN]

Hoping that this is one of those injuries that looks gruesome but not that bad to recover from. 4-6 months isn’t as horrible as it looked.