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The Jazz ought to trade for Zion Williamson

JimLes said:
My idea is mostly trading the Cleveland picks and swaps. I really don't think they're going to be very valuable and we've already got more young players(and are about to get even more) than playing time or roster spots.

And obviously, it would take something of value to pry Zion. If we could send them Clarkson and a 2RP, I'd love that, but it's even more realistic than my original proposal.
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Yeah, CLE picks might all be pretty late, although I'd be ware of trading the last one. It's this year's plus '27 and swaps in '26 and '28, no?
Edit: So we're still several picks away from 4-5 FRP.
 
Zion is the antithesis of winning culture. If NO has any brains, as soon as he gets healthy for 25-35 straight games, and he looks good, they should trade him.
 
Good timing. This thread pops up nine hours after it has been made publically known Zion considers NOLA to be a small-market town, and that he is looking to continue his "career" in either New York or Los Angeles.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Just an FYI some national guys were like "would you even give up one pick for him????" and while its never the perfect indicator I do think his value would be pretty low right now. If you offered the Cavs pick, Collins, and one more future pick I think they might bite. It gets them out of the tax. Its not nothing on our end but maybe we could slap some protections on the pick to make it low downside.
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It would be a no-brainer at that cost. But I'd clam-up pretty quickly once the cost started to rise.
 
Swuul said:
Good timing. This thread pops up nine hours after it has been made publically known Zion considers NOLA to be a small-market town, and that he is looking to continue his "career" in either New York or Los Angeles.
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That's just SAS making **** up for ratings.
 
I’m not touching him with a 10 ft pole. Does he even like playing basketball, imo his commitment to his craft is nonexistent. This is his 6th year. Hes played 60 games once and 70 games twice 20+ twice, and only 8 so far. Hes more likely to play 20-30 a year than even 60 a year. So we are planning to risk screwing the tank this and next year why?
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but conversational. I think it's relevant to the conversation what Zion's best case scenario looks like and the difference between MVP candidate and borderline allstar is more than just semantics.

I think your reasoning for thinking he can be an MVP candidate is fine. I don't think I can get there which is why I would not give up nearly as much as what you suggested.
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Only thing I think is wrong with your best case scenario for Zion conversation is that you used last year for the example when last year wasn't even his best year. I think for a best case scenario you have to use the all star year when he scored 27 per game and then extrapolate that out to an even better year since he is only 24 years old and could possibly improve

An efficient 30 PPG scorer (real best case scenario imo) is typically an MVP candidate imo.
 
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I’m not touching him with a 10 ft pole. Does he even like playing basketball, imo his commitment to his craft is nonexistent. This is his 6th year. Hes played 60 games once and 70 games twice 20+ twice, and only 8 so far. Hes more likely to play 20-30 a year than even 60 a year. So we are planning to risk screwing the tank this and next year why?
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He has been injured a lot. Being injured doesn't mean he doesn't like playing basketball and it's hard to work on your craft when you are injured.
 
hgb said:
Yeah, CLE picks might all be pretty late, although I'd be ware of trading the last one. It's this year's plus '27 and swaps in '26 and '28, no?
Edit: So we're still several picks away from 4-5 FRP.
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Might as well give a couple of our own picks in the trade since we would be planning to be good after the trade which would make our own picks worth less.
 
fishonjazz said:
Only thing I think is wrong with your best case scenario for Zion conversation is that you used last year for the example when last year wasn't even his best year. I think for a best case scenario you have to use the all star year when he scored 27 per game and then extrapolate that out to an even better year since he is only 24 years old and could possibly improve

An efficient 30 PPG scorer (real best case scenario imo) is an typically an MVP candidate imo.
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Why was he not as good last year then? (I don't know the answer to the question)

I would assume that his injuries have taken a toll on him and maybe other things have changed to make him less effective. Or maybe it could just be a ramp up from being injured the year before, maybe the monthly splits bare that out? I'm not an expert on Zion and haven't followed his career that closely to know.

I would be interested to hear from people who have followed him more closely why they think he can be significantly better than he was last year when he was fully healthy. What was holding him back last year?
 
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