Jazz Suns trade

[Elizah Huge]

View: https://x.com/espn_macmahon/status/1881855887410950617?s=46

 

[framer]

Another interesting part of this trade is that the Jazz keeps increasing the number of teams who could give the team a very high pick several years from now. Now it is up to 4 teams: the Jazz, Cavs, Wolves, and Suns. Each of them are unlikely to be really bad at that time and net a high pick, but out of 4 teams it is quite possible that at least one will be really bad and/or lucky with lottery balls.

You forgot the Lakers. . .

 

[framer]

I like the trade. I view it more closer to 50-50 on whether we end up with more value by the time all is said and done. But the prospect of winning the trade by a lot is much higher than of losing the trade by a lot, I think.

I'd wager that the Jazz never make that pick. Sell that pick in a couple years for max value for great piece to jumpstart the rebuild. That gives you better than 50/50 odds.

 

[bigmike]

This is some serious 4D chess we’re playing here.

Dangerous game to try and predict the future 6 years out.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I like the trade. I view it more closer to 50-50 on whether we end up with more value by the time all is said and done. But the prospect of winning the trade by a lot is much higher than of losing the trade by a lot, I think.

Well put.

 

[framer]

This is some serious 4D chess we’re playing here.

Dangerous game to try and predict the future 6 years out.

Not really, sell it after KD retires or leaves if you get nervous. It is going to be very, very valuable for the next 3 years at the very least.

 

[framer]

Would you rather have the 27 Clipper pick, the 27 Laker pick, the 28 Bucks pick, or the 31 Suns pick unprotected?

 

[framer]

Also, if there is ever a situation where any of those picks we traded turns out to be worth something, we have already won because we will have 2 picks better than that.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This is some serious 4D chess we’re playing here.

Dangerous game to try and predict the future 6 years out.

We got the less risky part of the deal tho. Say 27 and 29 both end up being like the 15th pick... Means both Utah and Minny or Cavs picks are in the lotto. We limited our downside.

Would you rather have the 27 Clipper pick, the 27 Laker pick, the 28 Bucks pick, or the 31 Suns pick unprotected?

Honestly... the Bucks pick.

 

[bigmike]

Maybe this is a precursor for us to take back Beal + his awful contract and all of these picks back

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This is some serious 4D chess we’re playing here.

Dangerous game to try and predict the future 6 years out.

Jazz already have enough young, rotational-level players to lose interest in the Cavs' picks in 25 and 27. Jazz also can't roster 8 players over the next 3 drafts anyway. The real unknown is the pick the Jazz will convey in '29. The fact that we're giving away the least valuable pick in these drafts means there isn't much downside here, while the PHX pick has considerable upside.

If I'm the Jazz, I'm confident that Collier, Sensabaugh and Filipowski are all top-10 rotation players on a good team. The future of the Jazz now depends upon drafting well in '25 and '26.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Maybe this is a precursor for us to take back Beal + his awful contract and all of these picks back

Nah. Beal headed to the Bucks supposedly. I'd say its likely close to a done deal but likely looping in a few other teams. This was the first domino tho for sure.