Collier Starting Over Keyonte: Are We Happy?

[Saint Cy of JFC]

someone predicted this awhile ago: https://jazzfanz.com/threads/number...efore-collier-becomes-the-starting-pg.219647/

You definitely believed in him earlier more than most, certainly more than me. I did not see him having the vision/passing he has shown.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

I think Keyonte has gotten better, but he doesnt play hard. His biggest improvement is his body language.

just remember that you've said this the next time you quasi-scold another poster for not providing good evidence for their claim.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

Keyonte has had stretches of looking like a starting level guard, offensively. Go look at his November/December splits where he was shooting about 54% efg%, on about 24% usg%.

Here is a list of guards with usg% above 20% sorted by efg% and you can see that Keyonte would be right there if he kept up that efficiency: https://www.nba.com/stats/players/a..._PCT*G*20&PlayerPosition=G&dir=A&sort=EFG_PCT

He's also a good enough passer (27.4% ast%, 2/1 ast/to ratio) that he doesn't need to be branded as just a microwave scorer or can only come off the bench guy. He's a young guard who needs to be more consistent and needs to play defense. He's still got a tone of potential.

I would bet that this benching is a motivation thing, and not some indictment on where the Jazz see Keyonte's future being.

I like this.

He's a secondary advantage-creator/playmaker. Put him next to a primary guy like Kasparas and things could turn for the better in a hurry.

 

[KqWIN]

Whether starting is good or bad for Keyonte…it’s great that he’s facing some kind of resistance to shortcomings. I felt so uncomfortable with the franchise giving him unlimited freedom and immunity from consequences. It’s unfortunate that he wasn’t actually as good as the FO/Hardy thought he was, but better that we cut the crap now instead of letting those bad habits fester even further.

I think young players need some room to breathe and the ability to play free, but Key’s privilege was definitely out of control.

 

[KqWIN]

Key and Collier are both in big contention for the worst players in the league that get the minutes that they do. When both are this bad, I don’t mind throwing a bone to the guy who is playing harder especially when the other guy has gotten too much freedom.

 

[underdog]

Key and Collier are both in big contention for the worst players in the league that get the minutes that they do. When both are this bad, I don’t mind throwing a bone to the guy who is playing harder especially when the other guy has gotten too much freedom.

I'm tired of reading this kind of s***t on this board. Let our rookies and young players breathe. Key and Collier have a lot of stuff to learn, but so do other players their age.

 

[fishonjazz]

You've lost that much interest in the Jazz?

Not that really, just we are tanking so as long as what they do lineup wise doesn't result in too many wins then I don't care

Once we are trying to win again then things like this will please me or upset me or whatever.

 

[KqWIN]

I'm tired of reading this kind of s***t on this board. Let our rookies and young players breathe. Key and Collier have a lot of stuff to learn, but so do other players their age.

It's your issue if you choose to project this on their future. I did not make an indication on their future, only their current play.

 

[bigmike]

I think Keyonte has gotten better, but he doesnt play hard. His biggest improvement is his body language.

If that's all it is then the benching is just what the doctor ordered.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I get that, but if it continues I'd start him

100%

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Ehhh, kind of indifferent, but hopefully Keyonte takes this as motivation to defend as he's horrible defensively.

 

[The Midnight]

It’s just Ainge showcasing Sexton pre trade deadline.

Nothing to see here.