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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Great, go do it. I always said that Cody needed to add strength and tighten his handle and that it would take some development work, especially when he showed up at the Combine weighing ~180 lbs.
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the jazz shouldnt have played cody at all this year. he was not ready body was not ready. his arms were bigger than his legs. he not only skipped leg day he never did leg day. he needs to be 210 lbs before he played. after getting his body right he needs to work on speeding up his release. its smooth, but slow.motion. soo slow he cant get it off without a strong contest.
 
oldtimer said:
the jazz shouldnt have played cody at all this year. he was not ready body was not ready. his arms were bigger than his legs. he not only skipped leg day he never did leg day. he needs to be 210 lbs before he played. after getting his body right he needs to work on speeding up his release. its smooth, but slow.motion. soo slow he cant get it off without a strong contest.
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Not how it works
 
I really do think that Cody frailness was a distraction from his overall lack of ability. Yes, in theory a young player can/will gain weight (though he is legitimately 15+ lbs away from being 15+ lbs away). But if he was built like Adonis, he still can't shoot, he's not fast, his handle is weak, and of course he would still have an extremely low motor.

It's interesting to think about how the "very obvious concern" effects our view of players. In Cody's case, he had an obvious concern but there's reason to be optimistic about that specific concern and it may have lead us to overlooking the other less obvious (but still obvious in hindsight) concerns. With Collier, his obvious concern was shooting and there wasn't a lot of hope there. But our pessimistic view of his shooting (which is valid) made us overlook that he actually had very strong traits.

I guess what I'm saying here is that even when there is some obvious concern about a player, don't fixate on it so much that you ignore the other aspects of a player. I believe that we correct in stating Cody's weight and Collier's shooting as their biggest concerns, but in hindsight it probably played too large of a part in our evaluation of them.
 
oldtimer said:
the jazz shouldnt have played cody at all this year. he was not ready body was not ready. his arms were bigger than his legs. he not only skipped leg day he never did leg day. he needs to be 210 lbs before he played. after getting his body right he needs to work on speeding up his release. its smooth, but slow.motion. soo slow he cant get it off without a strong contest.
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Early in the season, the Jazz dropped Cody in the deep end so he can see just how far behind he is. They said, "Here, go guard Ja Morant. Go guard Devin Booker. Go guard Chris Paul. Etc." Now he's got a list of things he needs to work on, and what he does with the next 18 months will determine whether he has an NBA future. I don't mind the approach the Jazz are using. I hope he responds to it. It's going to require some mental toughness.

All his life coming up the ranks, Cody was able to just waltz his way to the rim, or hit an open mid-range jumper. Now he needs to really work hard if he wants to have a chance. Whether it happens for him is anyone's guess.

To your point though, I don't think Jerry Sloan would have put Cody on the floor.
 
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Does anyone have an opinion on Yaxel Landeborg? I like the way he moves and plays for for his size, but the film I've seen of him is against super bad competition. He's also old.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Traore with another good game in tournament play. 19/3/3 in 23 minutes 8/14 from the field, and 2/3 from 3. His team lost though, so I believe they are done for a little bit.

Since following him this year, it seems like he has his best games in the biggest games. I think he has as much upside as almost anyone in the draft, but also has a high bust potential as well.
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He truly has some of the highest highs and the lowest lows.
 
Who's your 7 and why?

I think the majority of us have Flagg, Harper, Ace, Kas, VJ, and Tre Johnson top 6, so who would you put at #7 and why? If you have someone higher than one of those guys, who and why?

I'm genuinely interested because I'm just not sure at all who I would have there.
 
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  1. Cooper Flagg PF 6’9”️
  2. Dylan Harper PG 6’6”
  3. Ace Bailey SF 6’10”
  4. VJ Edgecombe SG 6’5”
  5. Tre Johnson SG 6’6”
  6. KasparJakucionis G 6’6”
  7. Derik Queen C 6’10”
  8. Asa Newell PF 6’11”
  9. SoberasHotRod said:
    Who's your 7 and why?

    I think the majority of us have Flagg, Harper, Ace, Kas, VJ, and Tre Johnson top 6, so who would you put at #7 and why? If you have someone higher than one of those guys, who and why?

    I'm genuinely interested because I'm just not sure at all who I would have there.
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    1. Cooper Flagg PF 6’9”️
    2. Dylan Harper PG 6’6”
    3. Ace Bailey SF 6’10”
    4. VJ Edgecombe SG 6’5”
    5. Tre Johnson SG 6’6”
    6. KasparJakucionis G 6’6”
    7. Derik Queen C 6’10”I’m not a draft expert, Queen just seems kind of interesting, but the drop off is huge from 6-7.
 
This draft class is weird.

Flagg is having one of the best statistical seasons I can remember. Like Zion levels of statistical dominance.

Harper had an AMAZING start and then has faded completely. He should probably go like #3 in a normal draft but will go #2 here.

And everyone else is just ehhh.

Tons of players that should go 6-10 in a normal draft.
 
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