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Trump Dictatorship and All Things Politics

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Zombie said:
I have no doubt that if the founding fathers were alive today they’d already be planning an armed insurrection in response to this.
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Yep, trump is literally why the 2nd amendment exists according to 2nd amendment proponents
 
LogGrad98 said:
The issue is, can this be turned into any kind of resistance. Will they show this at the polls in the mid-terms. This will really show where the country wants to go. I don't have a ton of faith it will make any difference. We will be fully a shambles by the end of the next 4 years of full on dictatorial oppression. Hopefully a better administration can help rebuild after that. But that will be a monumental task. I am not certain we will ever recover from this.
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I actually hope that this administration is followed by actual constitutional amendments that prevent a second try at turning the U.S. into an authoritarian state. I hope that is Trump's legacy. A lesson in what to watch out for, a lesson we already learned during WWII but seem to need a refresher in.
 
Every day it gets worse. It has only been one month. The goal of tearing down democracy is happening at breakneck speed. Today he blamed Ukraine for starting the war and he called himself a king. Yesterday he said only he and his Attorney General can interpret the law for the executive branch. The day before he said, "He who saves his country does not violate any law."

I believe this is ultimately headed toward protests and The Rapist will order the military to fire upon Americans. Then we're in a full-blown dictatorship.
 
str8line said:
Every day it gets worse. It has only been one month. The goal of tearing down democracy is happening at breakneck speed. Today he blamed Ukraine for starting the war and he called himself a king. Yesterday he said only he and his Attorney General can interpret the law for the executive branch. The day before he said, "He who saves his country does not violate any law."

I believe this is ultimately headed toward protests and The Rapist will order the military to fire upon Americans. Then we're in a full-blown dictatorship.
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But trans kids know we don't like them, right? So overall things are going well.
 
Zombie said:
I think its from February, and agree that it's both a reflection of their (lack of) action in response to Trump's power grab and entirely deserved. I also agree that they rested on their laurels, expecting their lip service to social issues to carry them through the day. I guess I'm still confused by your references to SJW actions though, and their "thumbing of noses at everyone else" I'm still not sure what that's actually referring to. As I've pointed out, they really did tack to the center on a bunch of issues to appeal to "moderate" voters. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong about this, but when I hear someone describe themselves as a moderate, what I actually hear is someone who prefers republican policies, but doesn't want to admit it. And for people like that, the republican party already exists, why would you choose the watered down version?

I think the Democrats have been captured by a consultant class who spend all their effort chasing polls, and no time at all on crafting a message to influence public opinion in their direction. They don't need to sacrifice the ideals of their members to be successful, they just need to communicate those ideals in a way that appeals to the rest of the country. That worked for Obama and Bernie, and hell you could argue that's probably Trump's greatest strength (other than his absolute shamelessness).
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That is a problem, I think we've lost sight of what it means to be a moderate, or rather we each have our own idea of what a moderate is and that tends to shoehorn people automatically into the other camp. Take Buck calling me a leftist. I'm all for the 2nd amendment and I own and really enjoy my guns, but I also think we need some common sense gun laws to try to at least chip away at the rampant shootings occurring in our country at rates literally orders of magnitude higher than any other developed nation, but I think we also need to find ways to address mental health issues in conjunction with these gun laws so people who are unstable can't get guns as easily. So which camp am I in? Remember, I by our modem definition MUST be shoehorned in one camp. So am I a right wing gun nut because I own, shoot and really enjoy my guns and don't want to give them up? Am I an irrational leftist who hates the Constitution because I feel we need a few restrictions on gun ownership? We've entirely lost the ability to have any level of nuance in opinion in this country. It was already happening way back in the 90's. We saw it exemplified in the Iraq war when Democrats voted to go to war then immediately backpedaled when they saw this was unpopular instead of sticking to their guns and owning an actually decision. And again when Obama killed Romney because he 1) said "binders full of women" and 2) was one of the few politicians who was capable of changing his mind (on abortion no less) but wasn't allowed to do that since he was then a "flip-flopper" when really that is the kind of politician we should want, one who has the convictions and intelligence to get new information, incorporate it into his world view, and make a reasoned decision to change his mind accordingly. But no, we must all be automatons with no ability to think beyond the party line, which lead us inexorably to the final evolution of this kind of no-quarter-given politics in a race to fascism on one side and an inability to put together 2 ideas to figure out how to stop the fascist on the other and no one is allowed to occupy any middle ground. But this is the inevitable position of a pure 2-party system. We won't survive this long-term if this model of political system isn't upended with a viable third party.
 
LogGrad98 said:
That is a problem, I think we've lost sight of what it means to be a moderate, or rather we each have our own idea of what a moderate is and that tends to shoehorn people automatically into the other camp. Take Buck calling me a leftist. I'm all for the 2nd amendment and I own and really enjoy my guns, but I also think we need some common sense gun laws to try to at least chip away at the rampant shootings occurring in our country at rates literally orders of magnitude higher than any other developed nation, but I think we also need to find ways to address mental health issues in conjunction with these gun laws so people who are unstable can't get guns as easily. So which camp am I in? Remember, I by our modem definition MUST be shoehorned in one camp. So am I a right wing gun nut because I own, shoot and really enjoy my guns and don't want to give them up? Am I an irrational leftist who hates the Constitution because I feel we need a few restrictions on gun ownership? We've entirely lost the ability to have any level of nuance in opinion in this country. It was already happening way back in the 90's. We saw it exemplified in the Iraq war when Democrats voted to go to war then immediately backpedaled when they saw this was unpopular instead of sticking to their guns and owning an actually decision. And again when Obama killed Romney because he 1) said "binders full of women" and 2) was one of the few politicians who was capable of changing his mind (on abortion no less) but wasn't allowed to do that since he was then a "flip-flopper" when really that is the kind of politician we should want, one who has the convictions and intelligence to get new information, incorporate it into his world view, and make a reasoned decision to change his mind accordingly. But no, we must all be automatons with no ability to think beyond the party line, which lead us inexorably to the final evolution of this kind of no-quarter-given politics in a race to fascism on one side and an inability to put together 2 ideas to figure out how to stop the fascist on the other and no one is allowed to occupy any middle ground. But this is the inevitable position of a pure 2-party system. We won't survive this long-term if this model of political system isn't upended with a viable third party.
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Bucknutz is a ****ing kook.
 
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