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Interesting video on Flemming. Just found this guy's channel
View: https://youtu.be/ZrjAmpeXOgA?si=TaoOY8HjX3dH4bPs
View: https://youtu.be/ZrjAmpeXOgA?si=TaoOY8HjX3dH4bPs
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2025 NBA Draft Big Board: Derik Queen, V.J. Edgecombe rise among top 100 prospects
Cooper Flagg is unquestionably the No. 1 player in this draft class. Things will get interesting quickly after the top few picks.
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New Vecenie board. Vecenie has joined in on the Beringer hype.
2025 NBA Draft Big Board: Derik Queen, V.J. Edgecombe rise among top 100 prospects
Cooper Flagg is unquestionably the No. 1 player in this draft class. Things will get interesting quickly after the top few picks.
New Vecenie board. Vecenie has joined in on the Beringer hype.
I'll give it a 'like,' but I don't subscribe to the NY Times. Beringer is already doing some Jarrett Allen things as an 18 y.o., so I can see why there's some hype building.
I just cant fathom any NBA team having Kon over Tre Johnson. Sure, Tre has warts, but he's a high level shooter/scorer who is scoring 21 PPG in the hardest conference of all time.
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Kevin Durant played at Texas. Just saying.
(I know nothing at all about this tre Johnson dude btw)
Duke guys get overexposed, but I don't think anyone would seriously take Knueppel over Tre.
I can see him being taken top-5. He's #4 on my list thanks to his insane play as of late. It's nice to see another player add some depth to this draft outside the top-3.
Hmmmm ….
Crazy that Duke has 3 of the Top 8 and Rutgers an additional two.
View: https://x.com/draftexpress/status/1895836995450257824?s=61&t=5x3vadM2-QgdcTb1VKPOjw
Crazy that Duke has 3 of the Top 8 and Rutgers an additional two.
View: https://x.com/draftexpress/status/1895836995450257824?s=61&t=5x3vadM2-QgdcTb1VKPOjw
YoungJefe
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Cam Thomas or Corey kispert
Full DX top 100. I can't believe Beringer has moved up so much, shows the weak strength of this draft after 6.
1. Cooper Flagg, SF/PF, Duke | Age: 18.1
2. Dylan Harper, PG/SG, Rutgers | Age: 18.9
3. Ace Bailey, SG/SF, Rutgers | Age: 18.5
4. VJ Edgecombe, SG, Baylor | Age: 19.5
5. Tre Johnson, SG, Texas | Age: 18.9
6. Kasparas Jakucionis, PG, Illinois | Age: 18.7
7. Khaman Maluach, C, Duke | Age: 18.4
8. Kon Knueppel, SG/SF, Duke | Age: 19.5
9. Jeremiah Fears, PG, Oklahoma | Age: 18.3
10. Egor Demin, PG/SG, BYU | Age: 18.9
11. Derik Queen, C, Maryland | Age: 20.1
12. Liam McNeeley, SG/SF, UConn | Age: 19.3
13. Joan Beringer, C, Cedevita (Adriatic League) | Age: 18.2
14. Hugo Gonzalez, SG/SF, Real Madrid (Spain) | Age: 19.0
15. Nolan Traore, PG, Saint-Quentin (France) | Age: 18.7
16. Noa Essengue, PF, Ratiopharm Ulm (Germany) | Age: 18.1
17. Danny Wolf, C, Michigan | Age: 20.8
18. Collin Murray-Boyles, PF/C, South Carolina | Age: 19.7
19. Carter Bryant, SF/PF, Arizona | Age: 19.2
20. Asa Newell, PF/C, Georgia | Age: 19.3
21. Ben Saraf, PG/SG, Ratiopharm Ulm (Germany) | Age: 18.8
22. Will Riley, SG/SF, Illinois | Age: 19.0
23. Rasheer Fleming, PF/C, Saint Joseph's | Age: 20.6
24. Jase Richardson, PG/SG, Michigan State | Age: 19.3
25. Thomas Sorber, C, Georgetown | Age: 19.1
26. Drake Powell, SG/SF, North Carolina | Age: 19.4
27. Adou Thiero, PF, Arkansas | Age: 20.8
28. Alex Condon, C, Florida | Age: 20.5
29. Noah Penda, SF/PF, Le Mans (France) | Age: 20.1
30. Ryan Kalkbrenner, C, Creighton | Age: 23.1
31. Sergio De Larrea, PG/SG, Valencia (Spain) | Age: 19.2
32. Alex Karaban, PF, Connecticut | Age: 22.3
33. Ian Jackson, SG, North Carolina | Age: 20.0
34. Michael Ruzic, PF, Joventut (Spain) | Age: 18.4
35. Maxime Raynaud, C, Stanford | Age: 21.8
36. Alex Toohey, SF/PF, Sydney (Australia) | Age: 20.8
37. Boogie Fland, PG, Arkansas | Age: 18.6
38. Miles Byrd, SG, San Diego State | Age: 20.4
39. Nique Clifford, SG, Colorado State | Age: 23.0
40. Chaz Lanier, SG, Tennessee | Age: 23.1
41. Johni Broome, C, Auburn | Age: 22.6
42. Isaiah Evans, SG/SF, Duke | Age: 19.2
43. Tyrese Proctor, PG, Duke | Age: 20.9
44. Darrion Williams, SF/PF, Texas Tech | Age: 21.8
45. Eric Dixon, C, Villanova | Age: 24.0
46. Kam Jones, PG/SG, Marquette | Age: 23.0
47. Sion James, SF, Duke | Age: 22.2
48. Dink Pate, SG/SF, Mexico City (G League) | Age: 18.9
49. Labaron Philon, PG/SG, Alabama | Age: 19.2
50. Joseph Tugler, PF/C, Houston | Age: 19.7
51. Cedric Coward, SF, Washington St | Age: 21.4
52. Kanon Catchings, SF/PF, BYU | Age: 19.5
53. Johann Grunloh, C, Vechta (Germany) | Age: 19.5
54. Rocco Zikarsky, C, Brisbane (Australia) | Age: 18.6
55. Bogoljub Markovic, PF/C, Mega MIS (Spain) | Age: 19.6
56. Mouhamed Faye, C, Reggio Emilia (Italy) | Age: 20.0
57. Dailyn Swain, SF, Xavier | Age: 19.6
58. Yaxel Lendeborg, PF/C, UAB | Age: 22.4
59. JT Toppin, PF, Texas Tech | Age: 19.7
60. John Tonje, SF, Wisconsin | Age: 23.8
61. Zvonimir Ivisic, PF/C, Arkansas | Age: 21.5
62. Tomislav Ivisic, C, Illinois | Age: 21.5
63. Koby Brea, SG/SF, Kentucky | Age: 22.3
64. Derrion Reid, SF/PF, Alabama | Age: 18.6
65. Malique Lewis, SF/PF, South East Melbourne (Australia) | Age: 20.3
66. Donnie Freeman, PF, Syracuse | Age: 19.5
67. Hunter Sallis, SG, Wake Forest | Age: 21.9
68. Walter Clayton Jr., PG, Florida | Age: 21.9
69. PJ Haggerty, PG, Memphis | Age: 20.8
70. Ben Henshall, PG/SG, Perth (Australia) | Age: 20.6
71. Izan Almansa, PF/C, Perth (Australia) | Age: 19.7
72. Payton Sandfort, SF, Iowa | Age: 22.6
73. Igor Milicic Jr., PF, Tennessee | Age: 22.5
74. Amari Williams, C, Kentucky | Age: 23.0
75. Jamir Watkins, SG/SF, Florida St | Age: 23.6
76. Grant Nelson, PF, Alabama | Age: 22.9
77. Hansen Yang, C, Qingdao (China) | Age: 19.6
78. Javon Small, PG, West Virginia | Age: 22.1
79. Jalon Moore, SF/PF, Oklahoma | Age: 21.8
80. RJ Luis Jr., SF/PF, St. John's | Age: 22.2
81. Braden Smith, PG, Purdue | Age: 21.6
82. Milos Uzan, PG, Houston | Age: 22.1
83. Bruce Thornton, PG, Ohio St | Age: 21.4
84. Jaxson Robinson, SG/SF, Kentucky | Age: 22.2
85. Trey Kaufman-Renn, PF, Purdue | Age: 22.5
86. Milan Momcilovic, SF/PF, Iowa St | Age: 20.4
87. Mackenzie Mgbako, SF/PF, Indiana | Age: 20.2
88. Augustas Marciulionis, PG, Saint Mary's | Age: 22.9
89. Lachlan Olbrich, PF/C, Illawarra (Australia) | Age: 21.1
90. Kobe Johnson, SG/SF, UCLA | Age: 22.1
91. Andrew Carr, PF/C, Kentucky | Age: 23.0
92. Otega Oweh, SG, Kentucky | Age: 21.6
93. Vladislav Goldin, C, Michigan | Age: 23.8
94. Xaivian Lee, PG, Princeton | Age: 20.9
95. Mark Sears, PG, Alabama | Age: 23.0
96. Nate Bittle, PF/C, Oregon | Age: 21.7
97. Neoklis Avdalas, SF, Peristeri (Greece) | Age: 19.0
98. Clifford Omoruyi, C, Alabama | Age: 23.3
99. Micah Peavy, SG/SF, Georgetown | Age: 23.6
100. Ryan Nembhard, PG, Gonzaga | Age: 21.9
1. Cooper Flagg, SF/PF, Duke | Age: 18.1
2. Dylan Harper, PG/SG, Rutgers | Age: 18.9
3. Ace Bailey, SG/SF, Rutgers | Age: 18.5
4. VJ Edgecombe, SG, Baylor | Age: 19.5
5. Tre Johnson, SG, Texas | Age: 18.9
6. Kasparas Jakucionis, PG, Illinois | Age: 18.7
7. Khaman Maluach, C, Duke | Age: 18.4
8. Kon Knueppel, SG/SF, Duke | Age: 19.5
9. Jeremiah Fears, PG, Oklahoma | Age: 18.3
10. Egor Demin, PG/SG, BYU | Age: 18.9
11. Derik Queen, C, Maryland | Age: 20.1
12. Liam McNeeley, SG/SF, UConn | Age: 19.3
13. Joan Beringer, C, Cedevita (Adriatic League) | Age: 18.2
14. Hugo Gonzalez, SG/SF, Real Madrid (Spain) | Age: 19.0
15. Nolan Traore, PG, Saint-Quentin (France) | Age: 18.7
16. Noa Essengue, PF, Ratiopharm Ulm (Germany) | Age: 18.1
17. Danny Wolf, C, Michigan | Age: 20.8
18. Collin Murray-Boyles, PF/C, South Carolina | Age: 19.7
19. Carter Bryant, SF/PF, Arizona | Age: 19.2
20. Asa Newell, PF/C, Georgia | Age: 19.3
21. Ben Saraf, PG/SG, Ratiopharm Ulm (Germany) | Age: 18.8
22. Will Riley, SG/SF, Illinois | Age: 19.0
23. Rasheer Fleming, PF/C, Saint Joseph's | Age: 20.6
24. Jase Richardson, PG/SG, Michigan State | Age: 19.3
25. Thomas Sorber, C, Georgetown | Age: 19.1
26. Drake Powell, SG/SF, North Carolina | Age: 19.4
27. Adou Thiero, PF, Arkansas | Age: 20.8
28. Alex Condon, C, Florida | Age: 20.5
29. Noah Penda, SF/PF, Le Mans (France) | Age: 20.1
30. Ryan Kalkbrenner, C, Creighton | Age: 23.1
31. Sergio De Larrea, PG/SG, Valencia (Spain) | Age: 19.2
32. Alex Karaban, PF, Connecticut | Age: 22.3
33. Ian Jackson, SG, North Carolina | Age: 20.0
34. Michael Ruzic, PF, Joventut (Spain) | Age: 18.4
35. Maxime Raynaud, C, Stanford | Age: 21.8
36. Alex Toohey, SF/PF, Sydney (Australia) | Age: 20.8
37. Boogie Fland, PG, Arkansas | Age: 18.6
38. Miles Byrd, SG, San Diego State | Age: 20.4
39. Nique Clifford, SG, Colorado State | Age: 23.0
40. Chaz Lanier, SG, Tennessee | Age: 23.1
41. Johni Broome, C, Auburn | Age: 22.6
42. Isaiah Evans, SG/SF, Duke | Age: 19.2
43. Tyrese Proctor, PG, Duke | Age: 20.9
44. Darrion Williams, SF/PF, Texas Tech | Age: 21.8
45. Eric Dixon, C, Villanova | Age: 24.0
46. Kam Jones, PG/SG, Marquette | Age: 23.0
47. Sion James, SF, Duke | Age: 22.2
48. Dink Pate, SG/SF, Mexico City (G League) | Age: 18.9
49. Labaron Philon, PG/SG, Alabama | Age: 19.2
50. Joseph Tugler, PF/C, Houston | Age: 19.7
51. Cedric Coward, SF, Washington St | Age: 21.4
52. Kanon Catchings, SF/PF, BYU | Age: 19.5
53. Johann Grunloh, C, Vechta (Germany) | Age: 19.5
54. Rocco Zikarsky, C, Brisbane (Australia) | Age: 18.6
55. Bogoljub Markovic, PF/C, Mega MIS (Spain) | Age: 19.6
56. Mouhamed Faye, C, Reggio Emilia (Italy) | Age: 20.0
57. Dailyn Swain, SF, Xavier | Age: 19.6
58. Yaxel Lendeborg, PF/C, UAB | Age: 22.4
59. JT Toppin, PF, Texas Tech | Age: 19.7
60. John Tonje, SF, Wisconsin | Age: 23.8
61. Zvonimir Ivisic, PF/C, Arkansas | Age: 21.5
62. Tomislav Ivisic, C, Illinois | Age: 21.5
63. Koby Brea, SG/SF, Kentucky | Age: 22.3
64. Derrion Reid, SF/PF, Alabama | Age: 18.6
65. Malique Lewis, SF/PF, South East Melbourne (Australia) | Age: 20.3
66. Donnie Freeman, PF, Syracuse | Age: 19.5
67. Hunter Sallis, SG, Wake Forest | Age: 21.9
68. Walter Clayton Jr., PG, Florida | Age: 21.9
69. PJ Haggerty, PG, Memphis | Age: 20.8
70. Ben Henshall, PG/SG, Perth (Australia) | Age: 20.6
71. Izan Almansa, PF/C, Perth (Australia) | Age: 19.7
72. Payton Sandfort, SF, Iowa | Age: 22.6
73. Igor Milicic Jr., PF, Tennessee | Age: 22.5
74. Amari Williams, C, Kentucky | Age: 23.0
75. Jamir Watkins, SG/SF, Florida St | Age: 23.6
76. Grant Nelson, PF, Alabama | Age: 22.9
77. Hansen Yang, C, Qingdao (China) | Age: 19.6
78. Javon Small, PG, West Virginia | Age: 22.1
79. Jalon Moore, SF/PF, Oklahoma | Age: 21.8
80. RJ Luis Jr., SF/PF, St. John's | Age: 22.2
81. Braden Smith, PG, Purdue | Age: 21.6
82. Milos Uzan, PG, Houston | Age: 22.1
83. Bruce Thornton, PG, Ohio St | Age: 21.4
84. Jaxson Robinson, SG/SF, Kentucky | Age: 22.2
85. Trey Kaufman-Renn, PF, Purdue | Age: 22.5
86. Milan Momcilovic, SF/PF, Iowa St | Age: 20.4
87. Mackenzie Mgbako, SF/PF, Indiana | Age: 20.2
88. Augustas Marciulionis, PG, Saint Mary's | Age: 22.9
89. Lachlan Olbrich, PF/C, Illawarra (Australia) | Age: 21.1
90. Kobe Johnson, SG/SF, UCLA | Age: 22.1
91. Andrew Carr, PF/C, Kentucky | Age: 23.0
92. Otega Oweh, SG, Kentucky | Age: 21.6
93. Vladislav Goldin, C, Michigan | Age: 23.8
94. Xaivian Lee, PG, Princeton | Age: 20.9
95. Mark Sears, PG, Alabama | Age: 23.0
96. Nate Bittle, PF/C, Oregon | Age: 21.7
97. Neoklis Avdalas, SF, Peristeri (Greece) | Age: 19.0
98. Clifford Omoruyi, C, Alabama | Age: 23.3
99. Micah Peavy, SG/SF, Georgetown | Age: 23.6
100. Ryan Nembhard, PG, Gonzaga | Age: 21.9
From the highlights I saw I really like Beringer. He's got a massive wingspan, extremely bouncy, and has a good frame that can put on some serious strength. Also has decent FT mechanics. He's only a month older than Flagg too, so still super young.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPvABpYFBEo&ab_channel=Cashiggy
The pass at 0:56 might be the funniest/worst pass I have ever seen in my life tho
I dont think Beringer moving up so fast is a sign of how weak the draft is overall. There just arent any rim runners in the draft outside of Malauch (I guess Newell, but I think he sucks and he's the kind of player who cosplays as someone with more potential/shooting rather than focusing on meat and potatoes) . That archetype is pretty safe and a lot of teams really need a backup 5 right now, or someone they think can develop into a backup 5/starting 5.
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Wow, no Richie Saunders in the top 100? But 2 of his teammates in the top 52 and he is way better than both. Ageism
Fail
homeytennis
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I've seen Byrd and Clifford (nos 38 39) play in person this season and am not sure either has a game that translates to the Association. Great college players in a middling college league.
I think Rocco needs to be moved up at least 25 or 30 spots.
That's my reasoning as to why it's a weak class. I don't think it's crazy to think the he could go lottery, but that's because of how weak the depth is of this draft and I would not consider him a lottery quality prospect in any other draft. There really aren't meat and potatoes players, so sure....might as well go for a moldable ball of clay and theoretical player like Beringer. The bar isn't set very high.
He looks like a good athlete and he just started playing ball, but it's not like he has freakish measurables for a C. I don't see him very differently from Chomche last year. I think he has a long way to go, and it's not exactly shooting for the moon to be looking at a potential backup C.
I liked Byrd early but his offense fell off a cliff.
He's leagues better than Chomche as a prospect.