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Game Thread Mar 02, 2025 06:00PM MT: New Orleans Pelicans @ Utah Jazz

Added to Calendar: 03-02-25

We took care of our Western Conference business. Let the Eastern conference providing uplifting support and victories for each other.
 
framer said:
Did I fever dream a guy named Collier was playing for us? Flip has been good, but Collier has been great for a rookie.
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Bigger role =\= playing better. Collier is playing well and putting up numbers, but realistically it’s been in kind of a fake role that’s only available to him because we’re tanking. Collier has shown the most potential and is likely the best prospect going forward, but out of all the rookies, Flip has shown the most ability to succeed in a real NBA role. If we’re just picking the guy who could help and actual NBA team win today it’s Flip.

Besides, Collier was awful that first part of the season while Flip has been more consistent throughout the year.
 
KqWIN said:
Bigger role =\= playing better. Collier is playing well and putting up numbers, but realistically it’s been in kind of a fake role that’s only available to him because we’re tanking. Collier has shown the most potential and is likely the best prospect going forward, but out of all the rookies, Flip has shown the most ability to succeed in a real NBA role. If we’re just picking the guy who could help and actual NBA team win today it’s Flip.

Besides, Collier was awful that first part of the season while Flip has been more consistent throughout the year.
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Not when you factor in defense. Don't try to be too big brained here. Collier has had the best net impact on quality basketball.
 
I feel really good about keeping Oscar as the 15th man going forward. Got to be a force in practice that helps others bring effort.

And if by some miracle his shot comes around, he becomes a legit rotation piece. I am of course not holding my breath, this is the case for half the players in the league in a broad sense, but half the league cannot rebound like him.
 
By the way, shout out to Ainge for knowing Olynyk is twice the player Bojan was. I didn’t see it and most didn’t either. He low-key would’ve been a better pairing with Gobert all along because he could’ve spelled those crazy problematic backup C minutes while bringing another awesome passer.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I feel really good about keeping Oscar as the 15th man going forward. Got to be a force in practice that helps others bring effort.

And if by some miracle his shot comes around, he becomes a legit rotation piece. I am of course not holding my breath, this is the case for half the players in the league in a broad sense, but half the league cannot rebound like him.
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The guy might play too hard for the tank race, almost cost us a loss yesterday.

One thing that makes tanking tricky at this point is if you play random G-League scrubs, sometimes they can get you wins just by out hustling teams.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Not when you factor in defense. Don't try to be too big brained here. Collier has had the best net impact on quality basketball.
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Collier doesn’t really have a role on a winning team yet. He needs to dominate the ball to be effective. Flip has a more realistic role on a winning team at the moment because he can fit around better players. If you look at the NBA teams that are trying to win, I think it’s easier to envision Flip being in those rotations.

And again, if you count the whole season (which I am), hard to argue that Collier has had a net impact on quality basketball. It’s not big brained at all. You yourself have been obsessed with spewing BPM any chance you get. Your own logic that you love to use would arrive at the same destination (not my logic, but yours).
 
NUMBERICA said:
It’s an all-out sprint to the bottom. If they can lose both games to the Wizards, bottom of the standings is achievable.
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Wizards are -12.4 in point differential IN THE EAST. Turn half of our "nice competitive losses" into blowouts and thats who they are.

They are so bad the league should force them to replace the W in theur name with L.

Lizards.
 
HermanG said:
Wizards are -12.4 in point differential IN THE EAST. Turn half of our "nice competitive losses" into blowouts and thats who they are.

They are so bad the league should force them to replace the W in theur name with L.

Lizards.
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Since the trade deadline they are 2-3 with an average point differential of -2. It's only 5 games and their wins are not impressive, but they seem to be playing better without Kuzma and with Smart and Middleton.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Since the trade deadline they are 2-3 with an average point differential of -2. It's only 5 games and their wins are not impressive, but they seem to be playing better without Kuzma and with Smart and Middleton.
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If they feel someone may catch them then I'm sure they can play the contusion game as well. Im pretty sure we have less leeway there.
 
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