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ESPN: Year 2 Sophomore Rankings, David Thorpe

I think he's totally unfair to Gordon TBH. Definite bust? Even in his frustrating moments of inconsistency I never find myself thinking "this guy is a total bust"

^This! Hayward does everything he is suppose to do to stay on the floor. he just hasn't been shooting well. eventually, you have to believe that his shots will start falling more consistently or that he'll at least learn how to score effeciently in the league.
 
Just the Jazz players. Enjoy.

11. Derrick Favors, Jazz
Forget about any kind of "bust" talk concerning Favors. He's still only 20 years old and will be so much better in two years. Meanwhile, he's already solid on both ends of the floor.

Hayward is a tough guy to peg because just when you think he's a definite bust, he'll have a beautiful game. There is an NBA player inside of Hayward, but until he learns to shoot, we'll probably see it only on rare occasions
 
The bust comment comes from guys who dont give a **** about the Jazz. They see stats and highlights and that is all. Dont get yourelves all wrecked over it.
 
For the record, I was shocked by Patterson's placement as well ..

not that any of this really matters, but still.
 
The bust comment comes from guys who dont give a **** about the Jazz. They see stats and highlights and that is all. Dont get yourelves all wrecked over it.

Maybe this is why Patterson is so high. They watch his and he does similar things as Hayward does that do not show up on stat sheets.

I do not know just inquiring.
 
I take anything written by David Thorpe with a grain of salt.


Worked out at his facilities = higher ranking.

Thorpe fawned over Fes for a couple of years. Almost as much as IGS and Kicky.
 
I take anything written by David Thorpe with a grain of salt.


Worked out at his facilities = higher ranking.

Thorpe fawned over Fes for a couple of years. Almost as much as IGS and Kicky.

Lol yeah, I remember Thorpes infatuation with Fess. Didn't he start calling him "White Shaq" or "Baby Shaq".
 
George is ranked too low there.... but what did you expect me to say?

+ Wall too high.
 
i'm so surprised to see jordan crawford at 13...
i'm from turkey and i rarely watch his games. wizards team is the master of disorder but keep in mind that he is a really good scorer and had 1 or 2 triple double. additionally, for today he is a better player than evan turner statistically and he has the confidence which evan lacks until the 2011-12 season.

splitter at 5! now what's that? watchin himself dominating the paint in europe was fun. he has some really nice post moves but i won't rank him that high... if he were in milwaukee or sacramento, he probably wouldn't be on top 15 on that list.

about mozgov vs. asik: please watch some international games before saying "asik sucks, timo rocks"! mozgov is not a good defender! he's better than asik offensively. you can understand the level of ömer's defense by tom thib's comments... he is "wanted" right now!
 
So Hayward had 4 good games last year, and 4 good games this year so far.
Now is where we find out if Hayward is just back to his good form from the end of last year, or if he is a flash in the pan.
Most of his history as to games played are in the bad to average range..... but I do have high hopes.

Do I judge him off of the bulk of his short history of games, or only on the good games he played?

We will see I guess.
 
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