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When you are given dog **** from the previous administration this is what you get. We were headed there already. Hard to fix all that dip **** did. You can believe whatever you want. It has only been 6 weeks and it will take time to fix the **** they left for Trump to clean up. If you think Harris word salad freaknoid could fix it you are really stupid. Thank the Dems..
Incorrect.
I had a great life all 4 years of the Biden administration and no chaos like we are dealing with now.
My 401k was amazing. Now, not so much.
trump intentionally emptied reservoirs of much needed water for no reason other than maybe because he wanted to hurt America.
It's been a complete disaster and has nothing to do with the previous administration.
 
If Trump wants tariffs then fine, tell us what they are. Implement them and stick to it. That would be better than this chaotic ever changing threat of tariffs, but maybe not, or maybe double, or I'll pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today, or whatever the **** is going on, No one knows. Trump doesn't know. It is all "uncertainty" which is the most effective way to destroy the economy.

If Trump is smart than this is his evil plan to destroy America.

If Trump is dumb than this is Putin's evil plan to destroy America.
 
The eating pets thing is what resonated with Trump voters...

Better luck next time.
100 percent. Which tells you all you need to know about the electorate. They want someone to justify their prejudiced. They want someone to inspire them to be their worst. They want an entertainer not a leader. It’s a weird self-actualization thing going on with our electorate where years of prosperity and boredom have led to a large segment of the population just raging against the system that has brought them so much peace, prosperity, and stability. And the only way to quell their thirst for racist, misogynistic, and teevee presidenting is through (unfortunately) pain. They need to be taught that election have consequences.
 
She went for months without a real interview. We talked about it throughout the Kamala Harris thread.
But she didn’t! She did plenty of interviews.
Meanwhile the other guy told people that blacks were eating pets and tariffs were gonna make everyone rich. While also being convicted of rape, paying off a porn star, and being prosecuted for stealing classified documents and Jan 6.

This is on voters, not on (insert whatever lame *** excuse people make to always blame the Democratic candidate and never ever ever question the always virtuous and all knowing American electorate). Again, Democrats can’t always bat 1.000. Not every candidate can be Washington. Maybe Democrats should take a page out of the GOP playbook and just vote for their own candidate (no matter who it is) because the idea that the guy from the other team winning and replacing judges scares the **** outta them?
 
Trump sucked and still sucks ***. If voters needed just one more interview from the democratic candidate to vote for them then our democracy was already lost. “I know that guy who told us to put flashlights up our asses to cure Covid and then told his fans to try to kill Mike pence so he could stay in the White House wasn’t ideal. But that Harris refuses to do the interview I want on the teevee show I want! Better vote fascist!” I mean cmon.

You shouldn’t be able to memory hole Trump and the blatant corruption, racism, and everyday incompetence of his first term. If our electorate had any brains then they would’ve voted for a mop instead of Trump.

This is why I hope we feel the full effects this time of Trump and Trumpism. It’s the only way our country will learn.
 
Thriller you sound like the guy at the pier selling canned fish and wondering why people won't buy his canned fish, while all around him people are buying fresh fish off every boat that comes in. Yes, the buyers would get something that help up better and was ostensibly a better product, in some ways, but those darn buyers just won't buy what he is selling. But no, it is the buyers' fault for not buying his canned fish. Not his fault for not selling a better product one he sees what everyone is buying. But imagine if he had shifted his priorities, focused on what people wanted, something fresh, and started selling fish tacos! Suddenly he is selling like crazy, people are coming from all around to buy his deliciously different yet still fresh fish tacos! He makes a killing!

But no, we stuck with stale boring canned fish, and those of us in the fish taco crowd knew it would end badly. Most of us tried to hold onto belief in canned fish while fresh fish was flying off the boats faster than the Orange God King can tell another lie, and hoped against hope that canned fish would be enough, when we all really knew we needed to offer something more fresh and different.

This was not new. Harris was bemoaned from the get go, but with Biden's all-important endorsement to carry the critical old white male vote for the dems to maintain the base already in her corner, we were all stuck with her. And compared to the teevee president as you like to say, she couldn't hold a candle. He was fresh bloody fish complete with endangered species bycatch to make things interesting and exciting and she was canned fish. And we all knew it and tried to pretend her canned oily fish was fresh and exciting. But it couldn't hold a candle. A bigger part of this is reading the mother****ing room. We are DEEP in the disinformation age, and if you cannot play that game you won't win the stakes. And Trump plays it with aplomb, and Harris was still trying to hawk her canned fish wares and the dems were busy using their only sales tactic, literally the only tactic they know - scorn and ridicule and claiming the highest of moral high ground, all while ignoring what was really selling and creating a product to compete. Complain all you want about the voters, yes they voted the wrong way, absolutely, but to them, from their actual perspective, they voted for the person making an effort to SEE THEIR PERSPECTIVE in the first place, and NOT for the side clamoring and crying that they had the wrong perspective to begin with. Trump gave them a master class in how to win followers in the disinformation age and they were too busy crying about how he didn't use the right pronouns to learn anything from him. (and now we see who gets hung up on that deliberate use of "wokeness" in this diatribe, and that is the very problem we face - forced morality at all costs, including the loss of our nation).

And literally NONE of this is new news. It is all old news. The vast majority of us knew it from the get-go. Go back to the Harris thread and look how early on her selection was bemoaned. Literally like day 1 I would wager. And consistently and often from that point forward. The dems never understood the audience/buying public or how to play for those kinds of stakes, and frankly they never made an effort to understand them. For them it was good enough to stay right up in the saddle on that high horse and tell everyone why they were wrong, as it is still happening to this day, which is why so many dems are content to sit in congress and make pontificating speeches and not get into the grass roots of it, they are still in shell shock that they used their one singular tool and it **GASP** didn't work.

Luckily Trump is beginning to alienate enough people we may have a light at the end of the tunnel yet, if the dems can in any way reach out to the disenfranchised and guide them through this rather than using their pointing fingers and their normal rhetoric of scorn and ridicule.
 
Thriller you sound like the guy at the pier selling canned fish and wondering why people won't buy his canned fish, while all around him people are buying fresh fish off every boat that comes in. Yes, the buyers would get something that help up better and was ostensibly a better product, in some ways, but those darn buyers just won't buy what he is selling. But no, it is the buyers' fault for not buying his canned fish. Not his fault for not selling a better product one he sees what everyone is buying. But imagine if he had shifted his priorities, focused on what people wanted, something fresh, and started selling fish tacos! Suddenly he is selling like crazy, people are coming from all around to buy his deliciously different yet still fresh fish tacos! He makes a killing!

But no, we stuck with stale boring canned fish, and those of us in the fish taco crowd knew it would end badly. Most of us tried to hold onto belief in canned fish while fresh fish was flying off the boats faster than the Orange God King can tell another lie, and hoped against hope that canned fish would be enough, when we all really knew we needed to offer something more fresh and different.

This was not new. Harris was bemoaned from the get go, but with Biden's all-important endorsement to carry the critical old white male vote for the dems to maintain the base already in her corner, we were all stuck with her. And compared to the teevee president as you like to say, she couldn't hold a candle. He was fresh bloody fish complete with endangered species bycatch to make things interesting and exciting and she was canned fish. And we all knew it and tried to pretend her canned oily fish was fresh and exciting. But it couldn't hold a candle. A bigger part of this is reading the mother****ing room. We are DEEP in the disinformation age, and if you cannot play that game you won't win the stakes. And Trump plays it with aplomb, and Harris was still trying to hawk her canned fish wares and the dems were busy using their only sales tactic, literally the only tactic they know - scorn and ridicule and claiming the highest of moral high ground, all while ignoring what was really selling and creating a product to compete. Complain all you want about the voters, yes they voted the wrong way, absolutely, but to them, from their actual perspective, they voted for the person making an effort to SEE THEIR PERSPECTIVE in the first place, and NOT for the side clamoring and crying that they had the wrong perspective to begin with. Trump gave them a master class in how to win followers in the disinformation age and they were too busy crying about how he didn't use the right pronouns to learn anything from him. (and now we see who gets hung up on that deliberate use of "wokeness" in this diatribe, and that is the very problem we face - forced morality at all costs, including the loss of our nation).

And literally NONE of this is new news. It is all old news. The vast majority of us knew it from the get-go. Go back to the Harris thread and look how early on her selection was bemoaned. Literally like day 1 I would wager. And consistently and often from that point forward. The dems never understood the audience/buying public or how to play for those kinds of stakes, and frankly they never made an effort to understand them. For them it was good enough to stay right up in the saddle on that high horse and tell everyone why they were wrong, as it is still happening to this day, which is why so many dems are content to sit in congress and make pontificating speeches and not get into the grass roots of it, they are still in shell shock that they used their one singular tool and it **GASP** didn't work.

Luckily Trump is beginning to alienate enough people we may have a light at the end of the tunnel yet, if the dems can in any way reach out to the disenfranchised and guide them through this rather than using their pointing fingers and their normal rhetoric of scorn and ridicule.
What you are saying is true. But what thriller said is more true. If Harris sucks bad she should still have won easily because no one sucks as bad as trump.

It wasn't a difficult choice for who was the lesser of two evils. Harris should have won by the widest margin in election history.

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What you are saying is true. But what thriller said is more true. If Harris sucks bad she should still have won easily because no one sucks as bad as trump.

It wasn't a difficult choice for who was the lesser of two evils. Harris should have won by the widest margin in election history.

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Should have based on what? A "reasonable person" standard? Ain't nothing reasonable about people in the disinformation age. They are looking for clickbait and bias validation and nothing else. The dems need to see that and respond accordingly if they are going to take control of the narrative, and that is the battle right now. Who controls the narrative. Trump did 1300 rallies per week it seemed, which controlled the narrative. His people were bombarded by his "message" of "I will fight your battles and make sure those boogey-men - like people of a different color, women, trans people, abortion, and socialism - can't hurt you". They heard it ad nauseum and any manipulator will tell you that people will end up believing what they hear constantly. As will any psychologist. Tell your kid they are a winner, they will believe it, tell them they are a loser, they will believe that too, if you tell them often enough. So Kamala and her "no rallies" policy was the dem's inability to "read the room" and respond in kind. That was the driver. Very simple. Trump won in exposure, and exposure breeds comfort, and it is easy to vote for what makes you feel comfortable. She had none of that. And so, they lost in a land-slide. Not to mention the fact that she embodied in her appearance what scared the right and much of the middle the most - a woman and a woman of color at that. Ain't nobody voting for that! Terrible miscalculation by the democratic party and almost felt like a big "**** YOU" from the Biden family to get even with those who "forced" him out. Ok fine then, see if you can win with this, assholes...."I endorse Kamala Harris"....collective groans all over the ****ing place and cheers of elation from the republicans. They could not have hand-picked a better opponent for Trump to run against, considering he had already put so much time and effort into denigrating and sowing distrust for women and minorities, it just played directly into their hand. So yeah, reasonable people would have voted for Harris considering she was the lesser of 2 evils, but when one of those evils put on the sheep's clothing and plays right into your self-righteous sense of victimhood, well that means you had only one evil at the end of the day that they could see...Harris.

Again, failure to accurately read the zeitgiest and play the game as it was laid out in front of you. Instead they bitch about nobody being willing to play their game of checkers while everyone else at the table were holding Uno cards. Not a winning strategy by any stretch. Question is, can they step up to the table and play the game now, or will they just continue to bitch about it?
 
Should have based on what? A "reasonable person" standard? Ain't nothing reasonable about people in the disinformation age. They are looking for clickbait and bias validation and nothing else. The dems need to see that and respond accordingly if they are going to take control of the narrative, and that is the battle right now. Who controls the narrative. Trump did 1300 rallies per week it seemed, which controlled the narrative. His people were bombarded by his "message" of "I will fight your battles and make sure those boogey-men - like people of a different color, women, trans people, abortion, and socialism - can't hurt you". They heard it ad nauseum and any manipulator will tell you that people will end up believing what they hear constantly. As will any psychologist. Tell your kid they are a winner, they will believe it, tell them they are a loser, they will believe that too, if you tell them often enough. So Kamala and her "no rallies" policy was the dem's inability to "read the room" and respond in kind. That was the driver. Very simple. Trump won in exposure, and exposure breeds comfort, and it is easy to vote for what makes you feel comfortable. She had none of that. And so, they lost in a land-slide. Not to mention the fact that she embodied in her appearance what scared the right and much of the middle the most - a woman and a woman of color at that. Ain't nobody voting for that! Terrible miscalculation by the democratic party and almost felt like a big "**** YOU" from the Biden family to get even with those who "forced" him out. Ok fine then, see if you can win with this, assholes...."I endorse Kamala Harris"....collective groans all over the ****ing place and cheers of elation from the republicans. They could not have hand-picked a better opponent for Trump to run against, considering he had already put so much time and effort into denigrating and sowing distrust for women and minorities, it just played directly into their hand. So yeah, reasonable people would have voted for Harris considering she was the lesser of 2 evils, but when one of those evils put on the sheep's clothing and plays right into your self-righteous sense of victimhood, well that means you had only one evil at the end of the day that they could see...Harris.

Again, failure to accurately read the zeitgiest and play the game as it was laid out in front of you. Instead they bitch about nobody being willing to play their game of checkers while everyone else at the table were holding Uno cards. Not a winning strategy by any stretch. Question is, can they step up to the table and play the game now, or will they just continue to bitch about it?
Im just using my opinion
The clear best candidate should win the election. In this case Harris was clearly the better candidate of the two.

Let's just say hypothetically that the Democrats put your number one perfect candidate in the race and they play the game exactly like you think they should and trump won anyway. Would you just continue to blame the Democrats or would you blame the voters in that scenario?

It was obvious all along who the better choice was and voters chose the worse option. If the Democrats put out an even more obviously better choice then the voters still might have just chose trump anyways.
 
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Are we winning yet?

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How’s everyone’s 401k lookin so far?
 
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