Bawse Dawg
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That Flag guy on Duke seemed pretty good. What’s the word on him?
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When I've watched Bryant before he looked ready to contribute defensively, but has never been a big part of the offense. In this game he actually was taking some possessions, but they looked pretty terrible, and the defense was not nearly as impactful as what I've seen. I'll chalk it up to an off game, but it's the most current thing on my mind.
seattlejazzfan
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i'd call him a skilled defender who cares. he moves his feet extremely well for a guy who lacks athleticism.
seattlejazzfan
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Cody is a good comp (both guys who had low production but nba physical attributes), but he'd be a rich man's Cody in the sense that he's a legit vertical/explosive above the rim athlete where Williams is a nice athlete who really doesn't get on top of the rim except on the rare occasion and he's certainly not "explosive", he has an elite build (no homo) as opposed to Williams ultra thin and weak frame, and i trust his shooting stroke more than Williams.
Polar opposite types of wing prospects.
seattlejazzfan
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Not really though. both are going tend to be more spot up shooters who will run the floor, and ideally guys who can defend multiple positions with their length. lengthy 3 and D type dudes. because of Bryant's bulk, he'll be able to guard bigger guys more effectively.
The only thing remarkable about what Cody produced in college was his scoring. His production in other areas was completely non existent. For Bryant, his scoring is completely unremarkable, but his production in other areas is great. Why even make comparisons on production if we don't care what kind of production is? Their production is completely opposite of each other. Besides their production, the most obvious thing about each player is the also complete opposite. Bryant has an NBA body, nobody can deny that. He is probably going to weigh in 40-50 lbs heavier than Cody did at the combine. It is his greatest strength as a prospect. OTOH, we all know what Cody's biggest weakness is.
The fact that Cody cannot score in the NBA does not make him a great 3&D prospect. It doesn't change the player he was at Colorado (which was a complete opposite of Bryant), it doesn't change that physically they are on the opposite ends of the spectrum, and it certainly doesn't mean he has the strengths that Carter Bryant has. It's a horrid comp based on production, physical profile, and playstyle.
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I've started to warm up to Maluach a bit. The issue for me was block rate. I do wonder if guys see him and just say "nope". I'd want to see the rim protection and advanced stuff.
By warming up I think anywhere in the 9-15 range is a good value.
Obviously he is likely off the board for us unless we landed 6 or something and had a deal for Walker... or unless we moved Walker and landed a late lotto pick.
By warming up I think anywhere in the 9-15 range is a good value.
Obviously he is likely off the board for us unless we landed 6 or something and had a deal for Walker... or unless we moved Walker and landed a late lotto pick.
seattlejazzfan
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sometimes i forget most people have no clue how down i was on williams prior to the draft, after the draft and still am. i mention that because:
i should have clarified that what i was saying about Williams applied in the sense that if he's going to make it, it will need to be as a 3 and D prospect, who can do a little bit over everything else - rebounding, some playmaking, etc. which is pretty much exactly what Bryant projects as - just a bigger version. Williams ball skills are probably a tad better at the same stage, while Bryant is bigger and a better defender. Williams was also a better shooter at Colorado, but with Bryant's stroke i'm not going to hold shooting against him as it relates to this comparison.
again, bottom line, if either makes it in the league, it will be cutting off the ball, defending multiple positions and making spot up threes.
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It doesn't matter how much you liked or disliked either player, it's still a horrid comparison. I don't think a lack of belief in Cody's scoring makes him similar to Bryant. Williams can be considered a 3&D prospect just by default because he sucks at everything. He was in no way shape or form a 3 and D prospect in the same way that Carter Bryant is. It's like drawing the comparison between Hendricks and Williams. One guy is in this role because he's good at it, the other is there because he can't do the only thing he could do in college. And besides their actual games, physically they are night and day. I don't mean to be a stickler about comparisons, but it becomes very questionable when one guy's greatest strength is directly another guy's biggest weakness. You yourself said it was based on low production and NBA physical attributes. It's pretty obvious that their production is completely different and also that their NBA physical attributes are completely different. 3 and D is the most common role in the NBA, it shouldn't be that hard to find a comparison where the prospects aren't direct opposites of each other.
To summarize this all, I will just take your direct quote from this thread:
At the core of Cody/Bryant convo, worst case scenario they are both the same player because they both aren't good enough to do anything other than guard and shoot spot up 3's, so if you are comping their ultimate NBA roles to be the same, I get it.