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Trade for Giannis?

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, but if you can trade Cooper for him along with Collins/Clarkson, then you can argue that you would have to give up minimal picks to get Giannis. So you would still have a lot of picks left to make trades to fill the roster out along with dealing Kessler.
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But the matching salary would get tough at that point.

I'm sure someone smarter than me, like Ainge, could figure it out, but I'm struggling.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think SA is the team that is the blend of win now and asset rich but also has Wemby so feels like they have a long term plan beyond Giannis.

Castle and their best pick package is what I think gets it done. Houston puts up Alpy/Amen and their picks with some of Jabari/Shep etc... are they that good with FVV/Giannis/Brooks and Amen or Alpy?
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I think HOU probably has the best infrastructure if you're not counting the ready made contenders who could put their stars on the table. Maybe it's just because I don't think Castle is that great, but HOU has a lot of juice with both players and picks. They'll be able to trade Giannis and have some leftover.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I'm talking about the matching salaries for the other good players.
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Then you can try and deal Sexton to the Nets for Cam Johnson. Would probably have to include two first.

So after the Sexton/Walker deals your team looks like:

Collier
Reaves
Cam Johnson
Lauri
Giannis

Bench: Flip/Williams/Sensabaugh plus whoever you can add in UFA. Plus I still believe Harkless breaks out next year.

Starting Collier is kind of scary given his lack of shooting, but if he can become a semi-respectable open shooter, that's a great starting 5 with a terrible bench.

You'd have to add a nice backup 5 (Brook Lopez joins?) and some veteran guard depth. Actually a decent amount of solid backup 5 options for a team that doesnt need a ton of minutes from that player.
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
I feel like if it's Harper you still have to deal considerable draft compensation. With it being Flagg you have a legit argument for not adding many other pieces to the trade, which would be better for building around Lauri/Giannis.
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Yeah I'm not trading Flagg. Dylan and like one of the prospects and like 2 picks is where it would have to be to make sense to me. That is light depending on how the Bucks view Dylan but I'd rather have Dylan than Castle/Amen/Alpy personally.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yeah I'm not trading Flagg. Dylan and like one of the prospects and like 2 picks is where it would have to be to make sense to me. That is light depending on how the Bucks view Dylan but I'd rather have Dylan than Castle/Amen/Alpy personally.
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I guess I'm on the other side. I wouldnt trade if it was Harper, but would if it was Flagg just because I think you can build a legitimate contender with the pieces you save by dealing a player like Flagg vs Harper.
 
KqWIN said:
I think HOU probably has the best infrastructure if you're not counting the ready made contenders who could put their stars on the table. Maybe it's just because I don't think Castle is that great, but HOU has a lot of juice with both players and picks. They'll be able to trade Giannis and have some leftover.
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Nah. FVV and Amen or Alpy plus whatever is left out of Jabari/Shep/Whitmore/Eason isn't better than Wemby and Fox.

If it is Castle, Barnes, Johnson, Sochan and #8 in 2025, the 2026 Atlanta pick (through a swap) 2028 Boston or SA pick through, 2030 pick of Dal or Min or the 2031 Sac pick through a swap... I think that might be enough. May have to swap out Barnes and Johnson for Vassell (not sure how his value is viewed but I think someone would give a pick and salary for it).

Houston gives Amen, Green, Shep, Whitmore, the phoenix or bkn picks through swaps including 2025... that is a better package I think. Put Alpy/Giannis/FVV/Jabari/Brooks isn't as good as Giannis/Wemby/Fox. Maybe they do something with Alpy that makes more sense with Giannis?

If I was Giannis asking out I'd angle for SA if the packages are close.
 
Giannis/Wemby would potentially break the NBA, but I could also see it being a letdown as I think they would get in each other's way a bit offensively (unless Wemby turns a corner on his 3pt shooting consistency). Defense would be absolutely insane though.
 
Giving up Cooper would be an insane risk. Missing out on developing a young roster and really growing with a young core is sad, but I also feel burnt by the promise of young cores from the past.

Getting Giannis would give us our best player in franchise history and I think DA could build a contender quickly with him if Flagg is the player being dealt.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Nah. FVV and Amen or Alpy plus whatever is left out of Jabari/Shep/Whitmore/Eason isn't better than Wemby and Fox.

If it is Castle, Barnes, Johnson, Sochan and #8 in 2025, the 2026 Atlanta pick (through a swap) 2028 Boston or SA pick through, 2030 pick of Dal or Min or the 2031 Sac pick through a swap... I think that might be enough. May have to swap out Barnes and Johnson for Vassell (not sure how his value is viewed but I think someone would give a pick and salary for it).

Houston gives Amen, Green, Shep, Whitmore, the phoenix or bkn picks through swaps including 2025... that is a better package I think. Put Alpy/Giannis/FVV/Jabari/Brooks isn't as good as Giannis/Wemby/Fox. Maybe they do something with Alpy that makes more sense with Giannis?

If I was Giannis asking out I'd angle for SA if the packages are close.
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I'm talking about juice in a trade package, not the remaining rosters. HOU has a better deal for MIL than SAS. I don't think Castle is the most amazing prospect in the world.
 
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