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Forget Matthews; trade for RUDY FERNANDEZ
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Can we agree NOT to match their offer to Wes in order to trade our TPE for Rudy??
Dumb idea. It would be like trading Matthews straight up for Fernandez ... not sure though of the money involved. But look at it this way: they want to get rid of Fernandez but we don't want to get rid of Matthews. So we would be giving them what they want, not what we want. We can't let ourselves be bullied by them, or this will continue in the future. Some people are saying let Matthews walk. But is that really in our best interest in the long term? Next year, AK will be off the books, and if Matthews performs up to expectations, his contract won't look so bad.
Yes, it would be trading Wesley for Rudy but ppl have to take in accout of the $$ Wes is going to make vs Rudy's contract.
BENTLEY
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yeah, if Portland is done with Rudy and would give him to the Jazz for the Maynor exception go for it.
Now - there is a Maynor exception of around what Rudy makes - a million something, isn't there? It's not a lot and I doubt the Jazz get a chance to use it. For that price Rudy's way better than some D-leaguer. I don't know what Rudy's issues are - maybe it's just Portland - but he is a really good player and pretty clutch.
then go get Brewer and let those two share duties at SG.
Now - there is a Maynor exception of around what Rudy makes - a million something, isn't there? It's not a lot and I doubt the Jazz get a chance to use it. For that price Rudy's way better than some D-leaguer. I don't know what Rudy's issues are - maybe it's just Portland - but he is a really good player and pretty clutch.
then go get Brewer and let those two share duties at SG.
Fernandez is a very good athlete. May in fact be a better athlete than Matthews. He does have hops, but as has been said do you really think the Trailblazer would trade him to us for a TPE? Dont think they would do anything to help us.
BENTLEY
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I heard a Portland guy get interviewed on 1280 this morning. He said Rudy is so unhappy in Portland he will not be in a Portland uni next year. But he said they haven't been able to unload Rudy to anyone because there's talk of backdoor deals he has or something -- did anyone else hear this? It was confusing. I don't know if Rudy's got deals with his buddies in Spain or what, and I wonder if he's just hoping to go back to Europe or something. Darko was wanting to go back to Europe too but he got more playing time in minnesota and now has changed his tune and is staying. Maybe Rudy just hates riding the pine, which looking at the Jazz roster he wouldnt do in Utah. I dunno - if all it costs the Jazz is the Maynor exception, and telling Portland they won't match Matthews' offer, I say do it. He'll have fellow euros AK and Memo here, and Memo always puts a smile on my face. That coupled with playing time might yield the Jazz a much better player than Matthews.
Again Trailblazers arent going to trade him to us for nothing. But how much does Fernandez make and how much will Matthews make? Also think Fernandez can play better defense if properly motivated.
homeytennis
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I watched some of the Blazers summer league game last night and the announcers were saying this was a big summer league for Patrick Mills to make the team. The Little Dude almost had a triple double last night. Have the Jazz bluff matching for Matthews and they say OK we won't and give us Mills and Fernandez for the trade exception and us not matching.
I was thinking the same thing last night when I heard the comment. I am really not sold on having Price or Gaines as our backup PG. Get rid of Gaines and add Mills, if he is as good as Yell thinks he can beat out Price. I am sure it would stop Yell ranting about KOC until they start DW over Mills.
If the Jazz do not want to pay Matthews then Fernandez and Mills are a nice consolation prize.
bozmansblues
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Being down here in Australia - I would love for the jazz to pick up mills - he has just played a series down here in Australia agst Argentina and absolutely dominated. He is the complete package as a PG, obv defence will always be the issue for someone who is 6foot - but he is tenacious at both ends of the court and I believe he would put utah in a better position when on the court than price does - I like the idea of price - but the reality of price is different - price cant provide a consistent effort off the bench over a season - price does have games where u go 'this guy is a gun and unstoppable" h/e they are to rare unfortunately.
Lets put a nice offer to mills (nothing stupid) and put some pressure on portland and make them pay some more tax!
Lets put a nice offer to mills (nothing stupid) and put some pressure on portland and make them pay some more tax!