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Basketball Novice said:
What are you talking about? The only thing Tre does better is shoot 3s. Fears is better at getting to the rim, drawing fouls, playmaking, rebounding, getting steals, dribbling. He also is a more efficient scorer and also carried a team in the SEC. Tre is subpar at everything except making 3s and having a good combine.
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What good is getting to the rim if you can't finish? If you can't shoot, you have to have the ball in your hand at all times or NBA defense will just sag off when you don't and cut away all of your effectiveness dribbling/driving to the basket which is supposedly his biggest strength. And are we really ready to let Fears dominate the ball in a backcourt filled with players who need it? How is Fears a better playmaker if he has a worse A/T ratio than Tre and led his conference in TOs?
 
jom2003 said:
What good is getting to the rim if you can't finish? If you can't shoot, you have to have the ball in your hand at all times or NBA defense will just sag off when you don't and cut away all of your effectiveness dribbling/driving to the basket which is supposedly his biggest strength. And are we really ready to let Fears dominate the ball in a backcourt filled with players who need it? How is Fears a better playmaker if he has a worse A/T ratio than Tre and led his conference in TOs?
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Because the first step of learning to finish at the rim is to get to the rim
 
jom2003 said:
What good is getting to the rim if you can't finish? If you can't shoot, you have to have the ball in your hand at all times or NBA defense will just sag off when you don't and cut away all of your effectiveness dribbling/driving to the basket which is supposedly his biggest strength. And are we really ready to let Fears dominate the ball in a backcourt filled with players who need it? How is Fears a better playmaker if he has a worse A/T ratio than Tre and led his conference in TOs?
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Fears gets to the rim at a massively higher rate than Tre, also draws tons of fouls, turning shots he would make at the rim into Free Throws which don't get reflected in the rim%.

Fears has great shooting indicators from everywhere except off the dribble 3s. He just took a ton of off dribble 3s. Fears shoots as well with non-rim 2s as Ace Bailey (46%)

Fears has a 28.6% assist rate compared to Tre's 16.5% assist rate. When players make more passes, they have more turnovers generally. A/T ratio is only a small part of the playmaking picture. Tre is masssively handicapped by the fact that he can't consistently get into the paint and create advantages for others.

Fears profiles as a boom or bust offensive engine guard. Tre profiles as an all shooting no defense off guard. That is why some people see Fears as a better prospect.
 
Basketball Novice said:
Fears gets to the rim at a massively higher rate than Tre, also draws tons of fouls, turning shots he would make at the rim into Free Throws which don't get reflected in the rim%.

Fears has great shooting indicators from everywhere except off the dribble 3s. He just took a ton of off dribble 3s. Fears shoots as well with non-rim 2s as Ace Bailey (46%)

Fears has a 28.6% assist rate compared to Tre's 16.5% assist rate. When players make more passes, they have more turnovers generally. A/T ratio is only a small part of the playmaking picture. Tre is masssively handicapped by the fact that he can't consistently get into the paint and create advantages for others.

Fears profiles as a boom or bust offensive engine guard. Tre profiles as an all shooting no defense off guard. That is why some people see Fears as a better prospect.
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i feel like you just described collier - who the jazz drafted at 29! last year.

gets to the rim a lot, but has trouble finishing. excellent FT rate. draws tons of fouls. excellent assist rate. basically identical size. only difference is Fears shot FTs better, while Collier shot the three better. TS% Fears 56.2, Collier 56.7.

so why are we drafting that guy at 5? Collier ended up being excellent value at 29, so Fears at 21? absolutely. the guy we achieved the worst record in the league for? uh, well, yikes.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
i feel like you just described collier - who the jazz drafted at 29! last year.

gets to the rim a lot, but has trouble finishing. excellent FT rate. draws tons of fouls. excellent assist rate. basically identical size. only difference is Fears shot FTs better, while Collier shot the three better. TS% Fears 56.2, Collier 56.7.

so why are we drafting that guy at 5?
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Fears has much better shooting form and shooting indicators than Collier. Fear's elite qualities are his ball handling, getting to any spot he wants on the court and his aggression going to the basket. Fears is also great in the midrange. Collier is a bit more of a North/South guard who uses his high level speed to get to the basket but is very limited shooting in the mid range and the 3.

I would say Fears is a couple steps better as a prospect than Collier was as a prospect.
 
Honestly, the biggest thing Jace has going for him is that he is the guy that I don't think we should draft, no matter what. Well, him and Queen. . .
 
Basketball Novice said:
Fears has much better shooting form and shooting indicators than Collier. Fear's elite qualities are his ball handling, getting to any spot he wants on the court and his aggression going to the basket. Fears is also great in the midrange. Collier is a bit more of a North/South guard who uses his high level speed to get to the basket but is very limited shooting in the mid range and the 3.

I would say Fears is a couple steps better as a prospect than Collier was as a prospect.
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in the bolded, you just described collier again. and as great as you say he is in the mid-range, and comments about form and "indicators" Collier still had a higher TS% than Fears. it seems you're may just be trying to convince yourself. so we draft one guy at 29 and the other guy at 5 because of form and indicators. got it.
 
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