Is Ace Bailey the best draft prospect in Utah Jazz history?

[Bawse Dawg]

He went 13th so hard to say he was on the same level of prospect.

Again I’m confused by the criteria. If we had drafted SGA would he not be eligible for this either?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Again I’m confused by the criteria. If we had drafted SGA would he not be eligible for this either?

Correct

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Correct

But why? Because pre draft analysis was wrong?

Jokic wouldn’t count either, I don’t understand why

 

[rippimpc]

How many drafts does Ace go #1? I’d say last year for sure.

 

[Elizah Huge]

But why? Because pre draft analysis was wrong?

Jokic wouldn’t count either, I don’t understand why

Was pre-draft analysis wrong or were those guys development outliers?

I’m talking strictly consensus as prospects. You’re making this way too complicated lol.

 

[jom2003]

Being a good draft prospect means nothing unless you can actually develop into a good NBA player.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Was pre-draft analysis wrong or were those guys development outliers?

I’m talking strictly consensus as prospects. You’re making this way too complicated lol.

Development outliers are a guarantee in every draft so chucking them out seems like an odd thing to do.

I guess I am making it too complicated so I’ll bow out. But to me talking it through is a bit more interesting than just fishing for a ‘yes’

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Best, most highly touted prospect we have had in the last 20 years? Yes. By far.

Best player we have drafted in the last 20 years? Who knows. He has a LONG way to go to prove himself. Spida and Rudy take the cake followed by Deron. But we have had a lot of misses over the years. But I am excited to watch him play in Summer League!

 

[NUMBERICA]

But why? Because pre draft analysis was wrong?

Jokic wouldn’t count either, I don’t understand why

We are making the assessment the day after a player is drafted, not in hindsight after they’ve entered their prime years. That’s what makes them a “prospect”.

 

[LogGrad98]

What’s the criteria?

Donovan had great defensive potential when coming out, and an offensive ceiling that no one could have even fathomed. If he had hit his defensive potential and still became the same offensive player, that’s hard to beat.

If he had done that we would have had a few rings and likely kept that team together. But he washed out completely on defense which continues to tank playoff teams to this day.

 

[Brsn]

Dante drew Penny comparisons. But he sucked so bad its hard to say he was the "best" but I think he was very highly touted. I was prepared to **** on this but it feels like at least a 3 way tie.

I thought Kobe was the main comparison. Dante Exum Compared To Kobe. I imagine the general manager who said this is no longer employed. Though Dennis Lindsey was the one who took the gamble on the hype... It's crazy to think Nikola Jokic went 41st in that draft.

 

[Flc]

How many drafts does Ace go #1? I’d say last year for sure.

Kon might have gone first last year. Hell, maybe even Fears.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Deron was definitely a better prospect.

Mitchell was also a better prospect, but that was with hindsight (but pretty immediate hindsight after SL)

 

[NAOS_pt2]

Deron Williams' Illinois team had a 37-2 record—a winning percentage of 94.7%. Rutgers last year was 15-17—a winning percentage of 46.8%.

I'm a little tired of the crown on Bailey's head when the the last time he impacted winning he was in some high school gym. "Best prospects" have a clear track record on impacting winning, so I'm afraid to tell all you love birds that DWill runs away with this over Bailey.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Deron Williams' Illinois team had a 37-2 record—a winning percentage of 94.7%. Rutgers last year was 15-17—a winning percentage of 46.8%.

I'm a little tired of the crown on Bailey's head when the the last time he impacted winning he was in some high school gym. "Best prospects" have a clear track record on impacting winning, so I'm afraid to tell all you love birds that DWill runs away with this over Bailey.

Dylan Harper was on that same Rutgers team and is absolutely a better prospect than Deron Williams was.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Dylan Harper was on that same Rutgers team and is absolutely a better prospect than Deron Williams was.

Not at all

 

[NAOS_pt2]

Dylan Harper was on that same Rutgers team and is absolutely a better prospect than Deron Williams was.

I'll just note that you're presenting a claim as if it isn't debatable. That's fine—because this is teh internet.

 

[fishonjazz]

As draft prospects? No

Ya some people seem to misunderstand the assignment.

 

[fishonjazz]

But why? Because pre draft analysis was wrong?

Jokic wouldn’t count either, I don’t understand why

The question as I understand it is "is ace bailey the best draft prospect in jazz history?"
So lets imagine there was a draft thread on jazzfanz when jokic was drafted. How much hype and discussion do you think there would have been in that thread about jokic? Im guessing almost zero because he was not a very good draft prospect.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

In terms of top-tier upside I'll say probably. Deron Williams was pretty special though.

Honorable mention to DeShawn Stevenson. I remember nbadraft.net comped him to Michael Jordan and put out a "mea culpa" like 15 years later, LOL.

It was a while ago but Deron was never considered a top 5 pick to my recommendation till after his ncaa tournament run. Tell me if I’ve got that wrong.