Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Jazz have his rights for the next 4 years. So, he would forfeit playing for years and collecting $40MM.

Someone did answer it. No, they can't do that. The Jazz own the rights to Ace whether they sign or not.

Draft Rights​

When a team selects a player in the NBA Draft, they gain that player's exclusive NBA rights. This means:

• No other NBA team can sign that player unless his rights are traded.
• The team holds those rights indefinitely if the player goes overseas or doesn’t sign right away (e.g., “draft-and-stash” internationals).

After a year, if the Jazz offer a Required Tender and he rejects it, they retain his rights for another year. At the end of that year, they can offer another Required Tender, and retain his rights for yet another year.

The Jazz can prevent him from re-entering the draft indefinitely by just repeatedly offering Required Tenders each year.

I just googled this.

If an NBA prospect is drafted but chooses not to sign with the drafting team, they will remain under the exclusive draft rights of that team for one year. During this period, the player cannot sign with another NBA team. They have the option to re-enter the draft the following year, or they can become a restricted free agent if the drafting team tenders a qualifying offer

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It’s basically a game of chicken right now to see who blinks first.

It's more like the agent running into a wall repeatedly until he figures out the wall isn't moving and he concedes.

 

[Shad]

I just googled this.

If an NBA prospect is drafted but chooses not to sign with the drafting team, they will remain under the exclusive draft rights of that team for one year. During this period, the player cannot sign with another NBA team. They have the option to re-enter the draft the following year, or they can become a restricted free agent if the drafting team tenders a qualifying offer

Won't happen. Don't worry about it

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Won't happen. Don't worry about it

I’m not worried about anything.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

It’s basically a game of chicken right now to see who blinks first.

jazz have the leverage. they can prevent ace from playing in the nba for four years.

 

[The Midnight]

It's more like the agent running into a wall repeatedly until he figures out the wall isn't moving and he concedes.

Unless he can get the Wizard to make an offer the Jazz cannot refuse.

Ace Bailey for Tre Johnson, and a future first

Who says no?

 

[The Midnight]

jazz have the leverage. they can prevent ace from playing in the nba for four years.

Goes both ways though, Ace can refuse to report holding the Jazz hostage for years.

 

[Flc]

Unless he can get the Wizard to make an offer the Jazz cannot refuse.

Ace Bailey for Tre Johnson, and a future first

Who says no?

Jazz do. They were never that high on Tre over concerns of his defense. Believe the guys talked about that on jackpotting around

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Ace is going to love it here, no passing or defense required. The team just needs to explain that passing is illegal in Utah and Ace will become the #1 fan.

 

[The Midnight]

Jazz do. They were never that high on Tre over concerns of his defense. Believe the guys talked about that on jackpotting around

How about:

Ace for Tre and 2 future firsts?

 

[Bodhi]

So the Wizards have some leverage in this
They can make any offer they want Take it or leave

That’s how you read that?

 

[fishonjazz]

Seems like if it's only one year players can create chaos
What if every player sat out the year and then decided where they wanted to go

I think they sit out a year and then enter the next draft. They still don't decide where they go.
Would be kind of funny if a player did that and then the same team drafted him again the next year lol

 

[slc]

That’s how you read that?

Kinda If Ace wants to go to Wiz and Wiz say no seems like Jazz are stuck

 

[Bodhi]

Kinda If Ace wants to go to Wiz and Wiz say no seems like Jazz are stuck

And yet basketball will still be played by the Jazz.

 

[fishonjazz]

Or any place for that matter. The NBA would essentially cease to exist at that point or would be limited to maybe 10 teams total? The NBA is a business and their product is the players. The more players that are drafted and become a Brunson or Jokic, the better it is for the business. These players wouldn't even exist if there was only 10 teams in the NBA today cause every player sat out from playing in Utah, Minny, etc...

Nah, too many players want to play in the NBA for them to eliminate themselves from their dream job and only have 10 teams

 

[MT Steve]

Goes both ways though, Ace can refuse to report holding the Jazz hostage for years.

I'm going to guess that Ace is not willing to turn down $41M in favor of $0 over the next 4 years.

 

[fishonjazz]

Goes both ways though, Ace can refuse to report holding the Jazz hostage for years.

Jazz are wealthy.
Ace isn't.

 

[The Midnight]

Kinda If Ace wants to go to Wiz and Wiz say no seems like Jazz are stuck

If the Wiz says no then Ace camp has zero leverage.

Obviously they have some interest at least for the agent to still be holding out.

 

[The Midnight]

Jazz are wealthy.
Ace isn't.

But we’re basically wasted a pick.

 

[MT Steve]

I just googled this.

If an NBA prospect is drafted but chooses not to sign with the drafting team, they will remain under the exclusive draft rights of that team for one year. During this period, the player cannot sign with another NBA team. They have the option to re-enter the draft the following year, or they can become a restricted free agent if the drafting team tenders a qualifying offer

I looked up the actual CBA language and now I'm not sure.

When I copy/pasted it to ChatGPT and asked the question I got this answer:

Utah's draft rights do not expire as long as they keep making proper Required Tender offers each year.​

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Here's how it works under the NBA CBA:​

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• A team that drafts a player and makes a Required Tender (a one-year contract at the rookie scale amount) retains that player’s exclusive NBA rights indefinitely — unless:
  • The player signs with the team,
  • The team trades the player’s draft rights,
  • The team renounces or fails to renew the tender, or
  • The player re-enters the draft — which he can only do if the team fails to tender (or withdraws it).

But here's the actual language (Article X Section 4), and I think ChatGPT was wrong:

(a) A Team that drafts a player shall, during the period from the date ofsuch NBA Draft (hereinafter, the “Initial Draft”) to the date of the nextDraft (hereinafter, the “Subsequent Draft”), be the only Team with which such player may negotiate or sign a Player Contract, provided that, (i) on orbefore the July 15 immediately following the Initial Draft (for a First RoundPick), (ii) in the two (2) weeks before the September 5 immediately followingthe Initial Draft (for a Second Round Pick selected in an NBA Draft priorto the 2024 NBA Draft), or (iii) on or before the August 5 immediatelyfollowing the Initial Draft (for a Second Round Pick selected in the 2024NBA Draft or any subsequent NBA Draft), such Team has made a RequiredTender to such player. If a Team has made a Required Tender to such aplayer and the player has not signed a Player Contract within the periodbetween the Initial Draft and the Subsequent Draft, the Team that draftedthe player shall lose its exclusive right to negotiate with the player and theplayer will then be eligible for selection in the Subsequent Draft.