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Well you’re probably the happiest man alive then to not feel depressed for the family that bent over backward to pay for a house they can’t afford only to be chased out of it to live in a motel…

Lucky you.
I understood that I was watching a suspense/horror series. I was in mild suspense and mild horror, not depressed.

I think to be so affected by this show isn't because you were in a bad place but possibly you haven't had to deal with actual hard **** in your life. I'm far from the happiest man alive.
 
I understood that I was watching a suspense/horror series. I was in mild suspense and mild horror, not depressed.

I think to be so affected by this show isn't because you were in a bad place but possibly you haven't had to deal with actual hard **** in your life. I'm far from the happiest man alive.
Or maybe I feel too connected to the show itself.

I do that sometimes. I get emotionally involved & attached to the characters and the stories and their trauma.

I have a partially soft spot for beautiful and often vulnerable and/or broken girls. The young single mother in “Drive”, the beautiful blonde in “The Birds”, Hepburn in “Wait Until Dark”.. the list goes on and on and on….

I can’t help but feel their pain as I watch them go through their trials and tribulations.
 
Or maybe I feel too connected to the show itself.

I do that sometimes. I get emotionally involved & attached to the characters and the stories and their trauma.

I have a partially soft spot for beautiful and often vulnerable and/or broken girls. The young single mother in “Drive”, the beautiful blonde in “The Birds”, Hepburn in “Wait Until Dark”.. the list goes on and on and on….

I can’t help but feel their pain as I watch them go through their trials and tribulations.
Not to mention your romantic proclivity for school girls.
 
Meh. I don't know where you get depressing from. It's a mid-level suspense horror series. I didn't even remember that I had watched it until you gave a more detailed description and I was like "is he talking about that one show I watched?" and yeah, that was it. I give it a 6/10 overall and a 1/10 on being depressing. Like did they make some jokes about dudes who like much younger women that I missed or something? I don't remember the depressing part.

This. Calling it depressing is beyond odd.
 
Man,..

If your life’s not going well.. or you’ve just lost a pet or a loved one.. or lost a job.. or a business..

A word of advice?

Don't watch “The Watcher” on Netflix.. lol..

I’m 2 episodes in and that show is depressing as ****.

DEPRESSINGGGG

I don’t like not finishing a series,, but this is gonna take a lot of effort to get through.
Ok so episodes 3-4 are a bit better, we finally got some answers to the weird happenings around the house…

Also learnt that the age of consent in New Jersey is 16?????

WTF!!!!

Boy, I’d sure hate to be the father of a young daughter living in New Jersey…
 
Im watching The Social Dilemma. (again. This is my second time watching it)
It is an incredibly good and incredibly important film. Im not kidding or exaggerating when I say that I think that it should be required that it be shown in every school in the entire country. Everyone should have to watch it.

Its also super depressing because by the time you have finished watching you will feel like we are doomed. The machines have already won. In the film it says how we are all worried about AI someday taking over the world but the fact is that it already has.

At these companies like google, youtube, snapchat, facebook, instagram, twitter/X, Tik Tok, etc there are very few actual high level programmers who program the algorithms that control the users. And whats worse is that after the programmers do their thing, these super computers take that program and grow it and change it and evolve it on their own with no input from any human. At that point the computer is in control and the programmer has no idea what it is doing or will do from that point on.

The film talks about hospital visit rates due to self harm and suicide rates in teens and pre teens and how those rates remained quite steady for the last hundred years or so and then how in about 2011 on the rates for teen hospitalizations due to self harm and suicide rates went up like 60%. For pre teens it went up like 150%.
Young people are less willing to take any risks anymore. Even simple risks that we all did growing up like getting a drivers license or going on a date. The rate of kids who actually get drivers licenses is way down and kids are going on less dates and getting into romantic relationships way less often. They are full of anxiety, depression, and fear due to these screens.

The only industries that refer to their customers as users are the drug industry and social media. I literally refuse to get snapchat, tik tok, instagram, twitter, etc because I recognize that im an addict. I know that if I get those apps then I will become a user and it wont be good for me.

Its like if a cocaine addict gets introduced to smoking crack or meth. Of course they will love it and become addicted to those drugs as well. Same thing here.

Such a captivating, thought provoking, well done film. But so depressing because it will make you feel hopeless about the situation.
 
Im watching The Social Dilemma. (again. This is my second time watching it)
It is an incredibly good and incredibly important film. Im not kidding or exaggerating when I say that I think that it should be required that it be shown in every school in the entire country. Everyone should have to watch it.

Its also super depressing because by the time you have finished watching you will feel like we are doomed. The machines have already won. In the film it says how we are all worried about AI someday taking over the world but the fact is that it already has.

At these companies like google, youtube, snapchat, facebook, instagram, twitter/X, Tik Tok, etc there are very few actual high level programmers who program the algorithms that control the users. And whats worse is that after the programmers do their thing, these super computers take that program and grow it and change it and evolve it on their own with no input from any human. At that point the computer is in control and the programmer has no idea what it is doing or will do from that point on.

The film talks about hospital visit rates due to self harm and suicide rates in teens and pre teens and how those rates remained quite steady for the last hundred years or so and then how in about 2011 on the rates for teen hospitalizations due to self harm and suicide rates went up like 60%. For pre teens it went up like 150%.
Young people are less willing to take any risks anymore. Even simple risks that we all did growing up like getting a drivers license or going on a date. The rate of kids who actually get drivers licenses is way down and kids are going on less dates and getting into romantic relationships way less often. They are full of anxiety, depression, and fear due to these screens.

The only industries that refer to their customers as users are the drug industry and social media. I literally refuse to get snapchat, tik tok, instagram, twitter, etc because I recognize that im an addict. I know that if I get those apps then I will become a user and it wont be good for me.

Its like if a cocaine addict gets introduced to smoking crack or meth. Of course they will love it and become addicted to those drugs as well. Same thing here.

Such a captivating, thought provoking, well done film. But so depressing because it will make you feel hopeless about the situation.

Yep. Don’t get your kid a phone. My daughter is going into 6th grade and I told her the only way she’ll get a phone next summer is if she gets A+’s in every single class this coming year—probably only about a 10% chance of that. And even if she does, she will not be allowed to have social media and we will collect the phone at night and there are limited reasons for usage.

I believe strongly in sports too. It keeps them physically active which I think also helps us mentally. It also helps build a strong social circle. Kids with similar interests. It’s a large reason I do what I do. Some running/drills, etc. They can watch tv. God knows they love it. But too much of it is no bueno. Especially the garbage that is on tv now. I’d far rather have them watch good films like Die Hard or Jaws that might be a little much for a kid than completely mindless nonsense like they watch on Netflix. That said, I don’t mind Big Time Rush too much because it reminds me of The Monkees which I loved as a kid in its silliness.

Those sports with academics (hugely important to me and it saddens me that parents don’t remotely focus on this with their children the way they do sports) and just being a kid and having unstructured fun are the keys to me. We joined a beach club this summer and my wife brings them and our three kids just run around and play with their friends there, fairly unsupervised. They like to go with our neighbors to the corner and do a lemonade stand for a couple hours for what feels like once a week. Etc.

I really want to buy a PS5 for my son. I do. Some of his friends play online together. I’m just terrified he’ll want to play it too often and it’ll be a reason he’ll want to not go outside or stop playing a sport.
 
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Yep. Don’t get your kid a phone. My daughter is going into 6th grade and I told her the only way she’ll get a phone next summer is if she gets A+’s in every single class this coming year—probably only about a 10% chance of that. And even if she does, she will not be allowed to have social media and we will collect the phone at night and there are limited reasons for usage.

I believe strongly in sports too. It keeps them physically active which I think also helps us mentally. It also helps build a strong social circle. Kids with similar interests. It’s a large reason I do what I do. Some running/drills, etc. They can watch tv. God knows they love it. But too much of it is no bueno. Especially the garbage that is on tv now. I’d far rather have them watch good films like Die Hard or Jaws that might be a little much for a kid than completely mindless nonsense like they watch on Netflix. That said, I don’t mind Big Time Rush too much because it reminds me of The Monkees which I loved as a kid in its silliness.

Those sports with academics (hugely important to me and it saddens me that parents don’t remotely focus on this with their children the way they do sports) and just being a kid and having unstructured fun are the keys to me. We joined a beach club this summer and my wife brings them and our three kids just run around and play with their friends there, fairly unsupervised. They like to go with our neighbors to the corner and do a lemonade stand for a couple hours for what feels like once a week. Etc.

I really want to buy a PS5 for my son. I do. Some of his friends play online together. I’m just terrified he’ll want to play it too often and it’ll be a reason he’ll want to not go outside or stop playing a sport.
Its so difficult. My daughter is 9 and going into 4th grade. Its still not a huge deal right now because there are not a lot of kids her age at school who have phones. There are a couple but not many. More have the smart watch things but still not a lot.

When she is in middle school though and all the kids have phones and are making tik tok videos and stuff then if im not allowing her a phone I would be possibly causing multiple problematic issues.
1. Would she be left out/ostracized from social circles and seen as the weird kid for not having a phone? The other kids would be interacting with each other in ways she is unable to.
2. Would she have big time resentment for me? I have an amazing relationship with her currently and as sad it may sound, if she ever hates me or tries to cut me out of he life, it might destroy me.
3. Would me not allowing her to have a phone lead to more rebellious and extreme behavior? Would she run away? Would she get into drugs/alcohol/sexual activity simply out of spite or "to get back at me"?

Its a nightmare scenario. And its even worse in my case as my daughter is an only child without really any friends currently (she had two close friends who were our next door neighbors but they literally just moved to spanish fork today) and she is horrible at, and has no interest in, sports. She doesn't really have any hobbies that aren't screens (she loves roblox and youtube kids of course lol) other than she likes to read but not all that much. Cant ride a bike or scooter. Swimming is about her only hobby that she is pretty good at but she doesn't love it. She isn't competitive and doesn't try very hard at anything. We put her in summer camp and swimming and ice skating and I take her to the park a lot and we try to keep her busy and off screens but its already a losing battle and thats BEFORE she ever even has a phone. When she gets a phone then I feel like I will have no chance.

Sucks.

I know FREEDOM and stuff but I really wish that the government would get more involved in this issue. Problem is that the social media companies are literally the wealthiest companies in the history of humanity and have so much influence over the government. Would be nice if we were all limited in screen time in some way. I would love to be forced into less screen time myself. It would be good for me. And I know im unable to do it myself. Im a junkie. I need an intervention. The whole country and most of the world does to be honest.
 
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In a rush and skimmed some of that.

If kids are her friends, they’ll still be friends. Just because she doesn’t have one (or a smart watch which we also will not buy) shouldn’t change that. If it does, the friends suck anyway.

I have a small segment of my 9th graders who don’t have a phone or smart watch. They socially fit in just fine.

So far as rebelling, I can’t help you there. My wife and I are a united front on this. It’s bad. Read any article about the pitfalls of tech. Executives in the companies who make this crap and don’t let their own children anywhere near it. We tell our oldest this and that we are not allowing it because it’s cancerous and she gets it. She almost never asks for one. Maybe a handful of times a year and it’s jokingly usually. It’s honestly not a battle at all.
 
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In a rush and skimmed some of that.

If kids are her friends, they’ll still be friends. Just because she doesn’t have one (or a smart watch which we also will not buy) shouldn’t change that. If it does, the friends suck anyway.

I have a small segment of my 9th graders who don’t have a phone or smart watch. They socially fit in just fine.

So far as rebelling, I can’t help you there. My wife and I are a united front on this. It’s bad. Read any article about the pitfalls of tech. Executives in the companies who make this crap and don’t let their own children anywhere near it. We tell our oldest this and that we are not allowing it because it’s cancerous and she gets it. She almost never asks for one. Maybe a handful of times a year and it’s jokingly usually. It’s honestly not a battle at all.
I sort of disagree with the part about if they are her friends they will still be friends. Friendships change during childhood and sometimes for very silly reasons. Sometimes a friend gets an in with a new group and that group isn't so hot on their existing lifelong best friend and the friendship ends. Or maybe she ends up being the new kid and not having a phone makes connecting with new people harder. I don't think it's so easy to say that a friend is a friend no matter what, because it doesn't work that way.
 
I sort of disagree with the part about if they are her friends they will still be friends. Friendships change during childhood and sometimes for very silly reasons. Sometimes a friend gets an in with a new group and that group isn't so hot on their existing lifelong best friend and the friendship ends. Or maybe she ends up being the new kid and not having a phone makes connecting with new people harder. I don't think it's so easy to say that a friend is a friend no matter what, because it doesn't work that way.

Friendships are fluid no doubt. Didn’t say they aren’t. But to lose one because you don’t text someone is beyond weak.
 
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Friendships are fluid no doubt. Didn’t say they don’t. But to lose one because you don’t text someone is beyond weak.
Eh, maybe you dont lose a friend because of not having a phone but often times friendships are based on shared interests. If her friend is interested in tik tok and she doesn't have tik tok then maybe her friend might spend more time with someone who has tik tok.

I had a couple of best friends growing up. At one point I got into fishing and smoking dope. Those friends of mine didn't like fishing or smoking dope. I was still cool with them and called them my friend but I rarely hung out them, instead choosing to hang with people who liked to fish and/or smoke dope.
 
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