OKC Thunder @ Utah Jazz: ESPN/Root Sports @ 8:30PM MST

[candrew]

Another dnp for Burks on a night cj and howard sucked a**

This is exactly what I feared when the Jazz signed Howard.

When you're winning, having a guy like Howard is great because he gives you veteran minutes. When you're losing and, in fact rebuilding like The Jazz are, Howard is more like an obstacle.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

We were outrebounded by 14. Unacceptable.

 

[Dr. Jones]

We were outrebounded by 14. Unacceptable.

but predictable ..

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

but predictable ..

Also a little inflated because of the last 4 minutes when the team basically gave up and starting taking bad shots and not rebounding anything.

The game was lost in the fact we couldn't stop fouling them, and we couldn't get to the FT line.

 

[chawx]

Also a little inflated because of the last 4 minutes when the team basically gave up and starting taking bad shots and not rebounding anything.

The game was lost in the fact the refs kept calling BS fouls on us, and we couldn't get call to save our lives.

fixed.

You knew it was going to happen, but just once I'd like to see an evenly called nationally televised game. Haven't seen one yet.

 

[mellow]

You do know what a role player is right? A guy that excels in one area and can do nothing else. Does that sound like Hayward?

I think he meant "player that is not and will never be an all-star"

Except... Nevermind.

Sorry, I guess I was using the term "role player" with wreck-less naivety. What is the proper term for a player who is skilled and plays, plays hard and might even on rare and infrequent occasions carry his team? One who makes the rookie challenge but is not an all-star? Do I call him Ronnie Brewer?

I like Hayward, and he had a nice stat line against OKC. I was just trying to point out that he can't be compared to Westbrook or Durant. I wouldn't even compare him to Harden or Green but I see where maybe the argument could be made.

 

[Hantlers]

Sorry, I guess I was using the term "role player" with wreck-less naivety. What is the proper term for a player who is skilled and plays, plays hard and might even on rare and infrequent occasions carry his team? One who makes the rookie challenge but is not an all-star? Do I call him Ronnie Brewer?

I like Hayward, and he had a nice stat line against OKC. I was just trying to point out that he can't be compared to Westbrook or Durant. I wouldn't even compare him to Harden or Green but I see where maybe the argument could be made.

My goodness, it's his second year, he's still adjusting from playing primarily a front court position to a forward/guard position and he's only 21! Recently, outside of his 3 point shot he has been playing very well, averaging almost 14, 3 and 3 while shooting 48% overall. What more are you expecting from a 2nd year player? Maybe there are some jaded people there saying he's our savior, he most certainly isn't, but saying that he can't compare to Harden or Jeff fricken Green (who isn't even that good btw) is just a ridiculous statement.

 

[Grandpa Jazz]

Until then, I'm not going to worry too much about possible trade chips getting playing time.

But what if the trade chips play so poorly that they drag their value down further than it already is? Two weeks ago was completely aghast at Bell and Harris, they have played marginally better (Harris does not fit with this team) but sadly that improvement corresponds with Big Al tailing off and Paul going AWOL. Went went from"firing on 2 cylinders" to firing on a "half a cylinder" (Hayward)

 

[kabenac]

That was a good game last night. We didn't play bad, but we lost. OKC is going to be what the Spurs were - they're going to be good for a lot of years - they play hard, are coached well, and don't fall apart when things don't go their way. Although they're super young, they don't cry when a call doesn't go their way (or isn't called) and it was a dramaless game (minus Raja annoying Harden). I'm hoping we take the good things we did last night (passing, hustle) and continue on. Last's night's effort would have resulted in a win against some teams, but not OKC.

 

[northeast]

T, they don't cry when a call doesn't go their way (or isn't called) .

that's not true. prove it, i challenge you.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

but predictable ..

Why?

 

[Qman]

Why?

Jefferson is a poor rebounder and Millsap is small. Hayward is a poor rebound SF. So against teams with length at the 3 and 4 and power at the 5. I.E. the Thunder we get punished on the boards.