Keyonte or Walter Clayton Jr, who has the better career?

[SoberasHotRod]

Best passer by far? Man you have some weird takes.

I would say that Collier is the best at breaking down defenses, putting pressure on the rim, which opens up passing lanes.

I think the Keyonte is the best actual passer, as far as capable of making specific passes.

It's really way too early to say what Walt is good and bad at.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

My heart say WCJ, but my brain says Keyonte

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I would say that Collier is the best at breaking down defenses, putting pressure on the rim, which opens up passing lanes.

I think the Keyonte is the best actual passer, as far as capable of making specific passes.

It's really way too early to say what Walt is good and bad at.

Agreed.

 

[jazznik]

I would say that Collier is the best at breaking down defenses, putting pressure on the rim, which opens up passing lanes.

I think the Keyonte is the best actual passer, as far as capable of making specific passes.

It's really way too early to say what Walt is good and bad at.

From what I saw Collier is extremely fast to recognize when any teammate gains some space from his defender for just a second - and Collier immediately shoots a quick pass to him just in time. That is how he gets a lot of his assists. Collier can effortlessly monitor several players while dribbling or attacking. Keyonte takes a bit more time to process things, although his long passes are obviously superb.

 

[Max Porter]

Walt will have a better career. For a guy who only has three nba games under his belt he is poised, confident and seems to have a high IQ. Also he seems like a clutch kind of player and there aren’t many of those.

 

[bigmike]

Keyonte can really go and has a special, aggressive scorers mindset. He’s got an “alpha” streak to him that not everyone has.

My concern on him is the efficiency. At some point it just has to improve.

 

[str8line]

Keyonte can really go and has a special, aggressive scorers mindset. He’s got an “alpha” streak to him that not everyone has.

My concern on him is the efficiency. At some point it just has to improve.

For sure Key has that alpha streak. Another very nice game from him tonight. 26 PTS, 10 AST, 5 REB.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Keyonte has the potential to be a career $100M player, but the shooting efficiency needs to improve to make it happen. It's the efficiency that's stopping him from being a Tyler Herro, a Coby White or even a Reggie Jackson.

Walt looks like a steady backup guard, but he probably has a lower ceiling.

 

[Domino]

I think alot of us are forgetting that Key is in his third year and still younger than Walt, I think meals gonna have a great career but Key can and I think will be special


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[Thee Jazz Fan]

My concern on him is the efficiency. At some point it just has to improve.

Keyonte has the potential to be a career $100M player, but the shooting efficiency needs to improve to make it happen. It's the efficiency that's stopping him from being a Tyler Herro, a Coby White or even a Reggie Jackson.

His efficiency already looks improved through 3 games, he’s to this point improved from 39% efficiency to 42%. Yes it’s only three games but he’s also shooting 65% from inside the line. Obviously that will come down some but he’s also off to a slow start in 3pt shooting at 18% so if you figure that into the equation he’s much improved considering he shot 33-34% from three his first two years I expect that to come way up. Hes also basically averaging 10 assists and getting 6ft’s a game.

Hes off to a better start than I thought for him. I see him having way more upside than Clayton with the same floor. Why is this a discussion?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think alot of us are forgetting that Key is in his third year and still younger than Walt, I think meals gonna have a great career but Key can and I think will be special


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Should be getting more hype from the board yet we got people calling him adequate

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Keyonte has the potential to be a career $100M player, but the shooting efficiency needs to improve to make it happen. It's the efficiency that's stopping him from being a Tyler Herro, a Coby White or even a Reggie Jackson.

Walt looks like a steady backup guard, but he probably has a lower ceiling.

If he keeps playing the way he has and starts shooting it, he will be 100 M player on his next contract, forget career

 

[str8line]

I've given Key a lot of grief about pouting, not giving 100% on defense, etc. But I've never doubted that he wants it BAD. He's starving for greatness.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Key was a player i was willing and almost anxious to throw in to a trade just 4 months ago, but i am drinking the kool-aid now. He made massive improvements over the summer. He is a stud.

That being said, WCJ looks amazing for a guy with 3 NBA games under his belt. Like... AMAZING!

AI am going against the grain to say WCJ has the better career because he should have major improvements just this season.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Key was a player i was willing and almost anxious to throw in to a trade just 4 months ago, but i am drinking the kool-aid now. He made massive improvements over the summer. He is a stud.

Keyonte has been playing well (on offense), but he's obviously been a huge beneficiary of Lauri's Jupiter-like gravity this season. Outside of scoring, his backdoor/alley-oop passing has been on point so far.

Defensively, he's still getting absolutely killed by POA ball screens. They're his kryptonite. Just refuses to fight through them, even with his new strength.

In pure 1-on-1 defense, he's been pretty good. There's some clear improvement there.

Overall body language is better too.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Key was a player i was willing and almost anxious to throw in to a trade just 4 months ago, but i am drinking the kool-aid now. He made massive improvements over the summer. He is a stud.

That being said, WCJ looks amazing for a guy with 3 NBA games under his belt. Like... AMAZING!

AI am going against the grain to say WCJ has the better career because he should have major improvements just this season.

This is weird to me. Clayton is 22 Key was 18-19 years old when he came in. Key obviously wasn’t going to come in and be a world beater right away. What is impressive is the strides he made in year one. Not sure how you can gage what Clayton will do in his career based off three games. Key wasn’t exactly gifted a great team situation. He played on some really bad teams

To me it’s pretty clear Key’s celling is much higher

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Age isnt the issue for me. There is always a major jump going from college to the NBA. Most players struggle big time. Even Cooper Flagg is having a transition.

WCJ looks comfortable in most situations. I am sure he is still drinking through a fire hose.

Also WCJ is going to be a two way player so I see more upside there. Key probably scores more points but Walt looks like he will be more serviceable to a championship team.

 

[gomretat]

I would much rather have the ball in the hands of WCJ at clutch times which is amazing to say about a rookie.

 

[David Hume]

Walter Marterry Clayton Jr is a player of substance, with robust poise for a “rookie.” We must recall that Identity and Similarity are two separate philosophical concepts, yet dare I propose, that in some empirical regards, Walter Marterry Clayton Jr has similar attributes with none other than Derrick Richard White? Protest as you may.