No idea why you're trying to make this seem like he's only been good for a section of the season. In reality he had a tough couple first games and has been fire since. His total year has been great and he's an impactful defender. 86th percentile in pure DRAPM this season.
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No idea why you're trying to make this seem like he's only been good for a section of the season. In reality he had a tough couple first games and has been fire since. His total year has been great and he's an impactful defender. 86th percentile in pure DRAPM this season.
The Jazz hunted him defensively and played him off the floor less than 2 weeks ago. It's one of the main reasons the Jazz beat the Rockets and Keyonte put up 28 pts.
Reed is averaging a respectable 13/3/3 and he has some decent advanced stats, but he's not one of the top 25 young players in the league. He's certainly not better than Keyonte or Walker. Statistically, he still hasn't caught up to Cason Wallace.
On ball defense isn't the only thing that matters on defense, and ironically you keep looking at anecdotal games to prove your point. You went from Shep having only 3 good games, to 3 weeks, to now citing one game to try to prove your point. Stop moving the goal post and just look at his whole season. For the whole season his defensive playmaking has far outweighed his on ball defense. That is very evident based on how the Rockets defend when he's on the court.
Advanced Numbers >>>>>>> per game numbers.
I mean, he's a defensive liability mostly due to the fact no one else on his team is a defensive liability so he gets the brunt of the focus for teams trying to find something to exploit vs an otherwise top tier defense.
Running total bases on draft position:
1: 5 out of 25 (20%)
2: 9 out of 25 (36%)
3: 12 out of 25 (48%)
4: 15 out of 25 (60%)
5: 17 out of 25 (68%)
6: 18 out of 25 (72%)
7: 18 out of 25 (72%)
8: 20 out of 25 (80%)
9: 21 out of 25 (84%)
10: 21 out of 25 (84%)
11: 21 out of 25 (84%)
12: 22 out of 25 (88%)
13: 23 out of 25 (92%)
14: 23 out of 25 (92%)
15: 23 out of 25 (92%)
16: 24 out of 25 (96%)
17: 24 out of 25 (96%)
18: 24 out of 25 (96%)
19: 24 out of 25 (96%)
20: 25 out of 25 (100%)
1: 5 out of 25 (20%)
2: 9 out of 25 (36%)
3: 12 out of 25 (48%)
4: 15 out of 25 (60%)
5: 17 out of 25 (68%)
6: 18 out of 25 (72%)
7: 18 out of 25 (72%)
8: 20 out of 25 (80%)
9: 21 out of 25 (84%)
10: 21 out of 25 (84%)
11: 21 out of 25 (84%)
12: 22 out of 25 (88%)
13: 23 out of 25 (92%)
14: 23 out of 25 (92%)
15: 23 out of 25 (92%)
16: 24 out of 25 (96%)
17: 24 out of 25 (96%)
18: 24 out of 25 (96%)
19: 24 out of 25 (96%)
20: 25 out of 25 (100%)
Amen at 6 is about right. He is very impactful on both offense and defense and can play several positions. Neither is true for many players.
There are plenty two way players on this list and some that are better on both offense and defense ranked lower than him.
It's half the game.
DD is overrated though and probably does not deserve to be on this list.
I obviously like Amen's game more than you do. To each their own.
Amen is very good and a positive contributor on offense, but he is still an inefficient scorer who cannot provide spacing. I don't think he shows much hope of being a shooter either. Mobley and Chet are two DPOY level players who have shown more offensive chops.
I do wonder with players like Daniels/Thompson Twins/Castle if the honeymoon phase of being in love with them will end when their shooting becomes a bigger issue in the playoffs. All great players, but massive shooting flaws.
Castle is someone ranked too high here as well. But I've always been a doubter of his, so I'm biased. Off the top of my head here are guys who could make it into this list:
(no order)
Edey
Kessler
Ace
Key
Eason
Fears
Kyshawn George
Lamelo
Jabari Smith
Mathurin
It gets flat after a certain point
(no order)
Edey
Kessler
Ace
Key
Eason
Fears
Kyshawn George
Lamelo
Jabari Smith
Mathurin
It gets flat after a certain point
Well, if they were good shooters they would be All Stars. The same would be true for Keyonte if he could defend like the Thompsons or Daniels. All of these players have major strengths and deep flaws. And all of them are still young and developing.