Game Thread Dec 12, 2025 06:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies

[SoberasHotRod]

My favorite play of the game was the alley oop from key to ace for the backwards dunk in the 4th quarter.
Hopefully those two will be great for a long time for the jazz

That play was sick.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

The Jazz's defensive rating for the season with KLove on the court is 140.

One hundred and fourty.

The tank people should be happy Hardy was playing him. Y'all bitch about anything and everything

I can`t speak for anyone else, but yes, I know that I`ve been bitching in this thread and I don`t like it at all. I usually take the rational view, but it is just so hard to root for losses and then get mad when they pul out an unexpected win. I get frustrated and acting out. I`ll do better.

 

[fishonjazz]

By now we should just expect Lauri or Key or both to off, especially against non playoff teams.

Ya I was just gonna post that if the Jazz are healthy, rested, and playing against a non playoff team then there is a good chance of a win.
The thing that has some people lagging behind in how bad of shape the tank is in, is last season. Many people think that since we were last in the league last season then its not possible to have improved much due to the off season moves.
Take last season with a grain of salt. The shenanigans were off the charts. We literally got fined by the nba for the shenanigans. They never fine teams for tanking. If the jazz were trying to win last season like they are this season then we would have landed at the very back end of the lottery....... sort of like we are on pace for right now (currently in the 9th spot with our pick likely going to OKC)

Gonna need some more shenanigans if we want to ensure that we keep the pick. Easiest way to do this is to play Cody Williams and Taylor Hendricks more. If playing them doesn't work then we get the bonus of seeing that those 2 actually can be positive players for the jazz. Its a win win. If they aren't positive players then it helps to keep the pick. If they are positive players then the future looks brighter.

 

[fishonjazz]

Ya I was just gonna post that if the Jazz are healthy, rested, and playing against a non playoff team then there is a good chance of a win.
The thing that has some people lagging behind in how bad of shape the tank is in, is last season. Many people think that since we were last in the league last season then its not possible to have improved much due to the off season moves.
Take last season with a grain of salt. The shenanigans were off the charts. We literally got fined by the nba for the shenanigans. They never fine teams for tanking. If the jazz were trying to win last season like they are this season then we would have landed at the very back end of the lottery....... sort of like we are on pace for right now (currently in the 9th spot with our pick likely going to OKC)

Gonna need some more shenanigans if we want to ensure that we keep the pick. Easiest way to do this is to play Cody Williams and Taylor Hendricks more. If playing them doesn't work then we get the bonus of seeing that those 2 actually can be positive players for the jazz. Its a win win. If they aren't positive players then it helps to keep the pick. If they are positive players then the future looks brighter.

I would also be curious to know if there are maybe more bad teams this season vs last season.
Like how many teams are on pace for less than 28 wins this season vs how many teams actually finished with less than 28 wins last season.

 

[Step-Back Lauri]

By now we should just expect Lauri or Key or both to off, especially against non playoff teams.

After two weeks into season I felt it's gonna be like this and without trading 2-3 of veterans (not likely), the pick is a coin toss if Jazz will keep it. The schedule we have the next week's isn't the easiest but I'm afraid there will be one or two home wins against some better teams too, that happens at home. It doesn't look good for the pick so all my hope is now on Key continuing his ascend, then pray for miracle that Jazz can pull of a big fish from the market in next two seasons.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

The Jazz keeping the pick or not is pretty irrelevant compared to just getting a top 4 pick. The 6-10 range in this draft is not looking good at all.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I would also be curious to know if there are maybe more bad teams this season vs last season.
Like how many teams are on pace for less than 28 wins this season vs how many teams actually finished with less than 28 wins last season.

There's more bad teams and there's more injured teams. The Jazz are only marginally better from a net rating perspective this year compared to last year. (-7.7 vs -9.3)

Last year the West only had two teams below a -3.1 net rating. This year there are 6 teams below -3.1 in the West.

I'm sure some of that is tied to how dominant OKC has been (not to mention Houston/Denver, the NBA hasnt been this top heavy in a while). They are just absolutely trouncing everyone and probably skewing a lot of net rating numbers very negatively for teams.