Exactly. He was out of control with his aggression but last night he controlled it well. Exactly what he needed to do.
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Alec Burks Highlights vs. Wizards
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Exactly. He was out of control with his aggression but last night he controlled it well. Exactly what he needed to do.
I think there is some merit in sitting a rookie down when he makes those mistakes. Sit him down and teach him that those things aren't going to happen if he wants playing time.
NAOS
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this would be an especially meaningful comment from you if I was arguing that he should play 100% of the minutes on the floor until he got his **** worked out. That would be ****ing ridiculous, though, right? I mean, part of learning is sitting, part of learning is playing. Glad we got that worked out.
zross1
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Im jealous, should be a decent game. Michigan needs to take some notes off Michigan States game against us. Just get super physical and see if Ohio State buckles.
Maybe you should become a professional coach since you know so much more about developing young guys than Tyrone Corbin.
NAOS
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I guess so... i mean, apparently I've transcended the single greatest problem of them all: development comes from both sitting and watching as well as playing through rough spots. KAPOW!!! championship.
You should send in this thread and the rest of your resume to the Washington Wizards. I can tell they need a new coach.
NAOS
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We might do OK with me at the helm... as long as you'll let us take Raja Bell off your golden perch. He'll make us teh #1.
Weezur
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Burks has all star potential. His ability to go left or right, shoot left or right has been amazing.
I'm not too worried about his passing. That'll come...hopefully we'll see him do it more especially to Favors.
His defense is also real good. I'm glad he's learning from Bell and not CJ.
I'm not too worried about his passing. That'll come...hopefully we'll see him do it more especially to Favors.
His defense is also real good. I'm glad he's learning from Bell and not CJ.
Xsy
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At the beginning of the season, Alec was pretty lost out there, and had a very "me-first" oriented shot selection. Corbin's done a good job keeping Alec from chucking, but he was still looking lost on offense. They played very unique offensive system in Colorado. His benching is probably due to his inability to really work properly in a more traditional system. Now that he's had more time and practices under his belt, he's getting more minutes, and making the best of them. We need to get rid of one of Hayward, Miles, Howard, or Bell before he can get more consistent minutes.
NAOS
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his early problems were predictable for many reasons. First, all rookie wings struggle at first. Second, Alec got to dominate the ball in college and had to learn to work off the ball.... that's not an insignificant re-orientation to the game. Etc. He's doing well. He's been doing well.
seattlejazzfan
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The Jazz record is better when he plays significant minutes, his plus/minus is one of the best on team, he's one of the most efficient scorers among wings on the team, there have been defensive rating systems posted here in which Burks shows as one of the best on the team. There is plenty of evidence that the Jazz might be a better team when Burks plays significant minutes. None of these things I've listed is a be all end all of determining as a fact the Jazz are better with Burks, but at least it's something. Point me to anything that might indicate the Jazz are worse when Burks plays. Give me something other than "I know because I watched".
NAOS
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using plus/minus stats for a guy like Burks is pretty retarded. I'm not even going into that debate. I'm also not going to give a nuanced argument about his early struggles on the defensive end because almost every rookie in history struggles to adapt to the speed of the game and the defensive philosophy of his new team. Burks did. I saw it. The one example that stands out was how badly he was abused in the Jan 19th game against Dallas. Beaubois killed him. He also looked lost from the perspective of team defense.
Now, seriously, I love the Burks pick. He could be the steal of the draft. But he's seen plenty of up-and-down already, and there is plenty of growth to come. The best compliment I can give him at this point is that he's earned the right to play through some rough spots instead of getting pulled and taught while he watches.
Now, seriously, I love the Burks pick. He could be the steal of the draft. But he's seen plenty of up-and-down already, and there is plenty of growth to come. The best compliment I can give him at this point is that he's earned the right to play through some rough spots instead of getting pulled and taught while he watches.
Hitman
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Wait, so you're saying taking dumb shots is an asset now? You want Burks to be the next CJ Miles? He's already on his way, he shoots as often as CJ Miles (on a per-minute basis), gets to the line as often as CJ Miles, although he shoots a lower percentage from both the field and the stripe as CJ Miles... the only thing he does better than Miles is rebound. If he keeps getting minutes and plays the same way he's playing now, it's only a matter of time before the Can the Alec Burks experiment please end? thread starts. I'd rather Burks learn better shot selection and keep the circus shots as a last resort, not a first resort as they seem to be now. Miles never got this - hopefully Burks will.
No you're not. Burks also gets less assists/minute than Miles - a damning indictment as Miles gets assists at the same rate as Jefferson. Also, almost half of Burks assists this season came in the one game - he had 2 on Opening night against the Lakers, then 6 against Milwaukee on Jan 6, only 5 since, a total of 13 for the season. And JazzFanz complain about Big Al being a black hole! Again, something where Miles has always been deficient, and we just have to hope that Burks doesn't follow his path.
Whoa there with the all-star talk - it's just one good scoring game against one of the worst teams in the league, who had already conceded defeat about halfway through warm-ups. Let's see him play a few good games in a row against decent teams where he makes good shot choices, passes the ball some, and plays some defence, so he actually earns minutes for playing well rather than just for development purposes, before we even start talking about him as a rotation regular. Because his defence is terrible - he gets wiped out on screens every time and gets lost on defensive rotations. The ineptitude of the Wizards may have hidden this flaw for one game, but he has a long way to go before he stops being a defensive liability.
NAOS
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Alec Burks has, for the members of Jazzfanz, all the intangibles to become the most hated Jazz player.
signed,
NAOS
No, because he's not really chucking. He looks to drive to the basket for the most part. It's not like Miles who will bump off a screen and take a 25 foot jumper.
Hantlers
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This is gonna be a fun ride.
Hitman
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Then why is he hitting a mere 42.5% of his two-point shots? Only Howard and Tinsley are worse. CJ's penchant for taking and missing long-range jumpers explains why he only hits 43.9% of his two-pointers, but Burks takes fewer jumpers (at least, that's the perception), yet still hits at a lesser rate.
The answer is he is driving when there is no driving lane and compounding the error by taking high degree-of-difficulty shots when he gets to the cup, rather than dishing off. There is no difference between Miles' ill-advised chucks and Burks' MLAs in terms of decision-making, or in terms of results, even if he does manage to draw fouls - he should still be converting at better than 42.5% when he isn't fouled if the majority of his shots are at the rim.
Weezur
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You just trolled yourself.