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The Draft/Mandatory Conscription

Gyp Rosetti

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Can anyone here please educate me/us as to why it ended in '73?

Also, does anyone see a situation in which it's ever reinstated?

Thoughts?
 
I would be for it. Say age 20 and you go into military service. Obvious deferments or opt outs for full time college attendance, marriage, gainful full time employment and obvious health reasons. Make something or the lazy free loaders
 
I am completely opposed to any type of forced military service. Individuals are not the property of their government to be put to use and "spent" as it sees fit. Besides that it makes for a pretty lousy fighting force compared to an all volunteer force.
 
I am completely opposed to any type of forced military service. Individuals are not the property of their government to be put to use and "spent" as it sees fit. Besides that it makes for a pretty lousy fighting force compared to an all volunteer force.

Spoken like a true fat man.
 
I am completely opposed to any type of forced military service. Individuals are not the property of their government to be put to use and "spent" as it sees fit. Besides that it makes for a pretty lousy fighting force compared to an all volunteer force.

Agreed.

Although, there is a part of me that wishes I would've been forced. So much good comes from service, as I'm sure you know.
 
I am completely opposed to any type of forced military service. Individuals are not the property of their government to be put to use and "spent" as it sees fit. Besides that it makes for a pretty lousy fighting force compared to an all volunteer force.

i have dual citizenship,,u know whats the funny thing? both countries have Mandatory military service :),so i had to pick one
 
Can anyone here please educate me/us as to why it ended in '73?

Also, does anyone see a situation in which it's ever reinstated?

Thoughts?

I was somewhere in line when it ended, though both the army and airforce actually turned me down for physical issues. I believe it was becoming a choice of how to go get all the kids who had gone to Canada, and people were generally pissed and opposed to the war.
 
Agreed.

Although, there is a part of me that wishes I would've been forced. So much good comes from service, as I'm sure you know.

If you don't graduate high school or drop out or are kicked out and have not later gotten your GED (and have not gained some sort of employment?) by 20 (21?), there is mandatory conscription. Might that help graduation rates, discipline in schools, and teenagers thinking more like adults with real life consequences rather than ones who worry about COD? Might that give those who do drop out or are expelled some sort of direction in life? I'm just spitballing. Keep in mind I am by no means some Patriotic dude. I just think there's a lot of good that can come from service both for the individual and for our country as a whole.
 
It might cut out the entitlement mentality, where kids want the government to give to them but don't feel they have any responsibility to contribute.
 
The way our government treats our soldiers once they're no longer useful? No, I do not support a draft.

We'd have to end up in some major **** for the draft to become justifiable. Like, being invaded.
 
The way our government treats our soldiers once they're no longer useful? No, I do not support a draft.

We'd have to end up in some major **** for the draft to become justifiable. Like, being invaded.

If the U.S. itself were ligitimately threatened you wouldn't need to draft people. If a nation exists for the benefit of free people then free people have an interest in protecting it. Only when a nation is not free or does not support the best interests of it's people does it need to force people to fight in it's defense. Now, compelling people to engage in conquests of other nations/people is a different ballgame and not something a free nation and/or people should be doing in the first place.
 
I am completely opposed to any type of forced military service. Individuals are not the property of their government to be put to use and "spent" as it sees fit. Besides that it makes for a pretty lousy fighting force compared to an all volunteer force.

Ask the middle east countries about how lousy the Israeli army is. It is mandatory to serve for the Israeli state after all.
 
The way our government treats our soldiers once they're no longer useful? No, I do not support a draft.

We'd have to end up in some major **** for the draft to become justifiable. Like, being invaded.

I truly believe that if the US were invaded people would flock to the military recruitment center. See WWII. Conscription typically becomes necessary only when invading other countries. See land wars in Asia.
 
I truly believe that if the US were invaded people would flock to the military recruitment center. See WWII. Conscription typically becomes necessary only when invading other countries. See land wars in Asia.

I agree.

Also as far as a forced conscription what if it was not only military service. What if other forms of service came into play?
 
I agree.

Also as far as a forced conscription what if it was not only military service. What if other forms of service came into play?

Then post a help wanted sign and take applications.
 
I am completely opposed to any type of forced military service. Individuals are not the property of their government to be put to use and "spent" as it sees fit. Besides that it makes for a pretty lousy fighting force compared to an all volunteer force.

I couldn't agree more. It is against everything we believe in to have the government force somebody to possibly go off to war. I find that it is also in the worst interest of the government to have soldiers in their military who don't want to be there. I would rather people just volunteer. If you are a pacifist then I urge you search out some other volunteer work that you can do to help your country. But again, if you decide to not do that either, then that is your right.
 
I truly believe that if the US were invaded people would flock to the military recruitment center. See WWII. Conscription typically becomes necessary only when invading other countries. See land wars in Asia.

We had a highly isolationist mentality following WWI, but Americans joined when they fealt it was necessary. If we have to draft Americans to fight for their families then the war is not a good idea in the first place.
 
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