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Following potential 2012 draftees

We could still get Tony Mitchell at around pick 20. Long 3 who's as athletic as anyone in the league, can shoot, and be a lockdown defender. Not a volume guy either (like Burks could be) which could be perfect.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
We could still get Tony Mitchell at around pick 20. Long 3 who's as athletic as anyone in the league, can shoot, and be a lockdown defender. Not a volume guy either (like Burks could be) which could be perfect.
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How would we get our hands on a 20th pick? I thought 'Sota will get our pick as soon as it exceeds 14.
 
BENTLEY said:
I've watched Baylor a handful of times this year. I've been impressed with PJIII's talent, in spite of his docile demeanor. But I've tuned into their games mainly to get a look at Quincy Miller, because of his being a true SF (whereas PJIII may only be a PF). But every time I watch Miller seems invisible. Actually, Acy takes a lot of Miller's minutes (Acy seems to play with more intensity than Miller - but he's not projected in the draft nearly has high as Miller).
But I also notice their backcourt, Jackson and Walton - and I don't like them. They remind of guys I've played with that never pass the ball. And yet I notice PJIII so they must pass the ball at some point. I dunno. Is Miller's problem his teammates, is it his coach, or is it him? Because PJIII and Miller seem similar to me, yet PJIII is the one that appears more impressive.

Anyone care to educate me on this?
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I'm still on the PJIII bandwagon, especially if he falls to say 10 or so. I still see him in that Lamar Odom/Rudy Gay mold. At Baylor it seems like they try to use him as a PF or C (and being that he's 6'11" that makes sense), but while he has a lot of things he would have to improve on, I still think he has the potential be an elite SF. Okay, let's hear it PKM.
 
margodydek said:
I'm still on the PJIII bandwagon, especially if he falls to say 10 or so. I still see him in that Lamar Odom/Rudy Gay mold. At Baylor it seems like they try to use him as a PF or C (and being that he's 6'11" that makes sense), but while he has a lot of things he would have to improve on, I still think he has the potential be an elite SF. Okay, let's hear it PKM.
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PKM has already said his position is a stretch 4 not sf.
 
margodydek said:
I'm still on the PJIII bandwagon, especially if he falls to say 10 or so. I still see him in that Lamar Odom/Rudy Gay mold. At Baylor it seems like they try to use him as a PF or C (and being that he's 6'11" that makes sense), but while he has a lot of things he would have to improve on, I still think he has the potential be an elite SF. Okay, let's hear it PKM.
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At 10 or later he has too much potential to pass up on. He might be the perfect player for the Jazz in the 3 big man rotation.
 
orangello said:
At 10 or later he has too much potential to pass up on. He might be the perfect player for the Jazz in the 3 big man rotation.
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I still firmly believe that the current system that he plays in really hurts him as well as Miller. If he played in a more ball movement friendly system I believe that he will thrive. I am sure that he will have to break out of the mind frame that he is stuck in right now and I also believe that the Jazz have the right team for that. Remember Favors when he first got to the Jazz? Shy, kept to himself, didn't seem to understand his potential. I can see Jones breaking out in the same way.
 
orangello said:
I still firmly believe that the current system that he plays in really hurts him as well as Miller. If he played in a more ball movement friendly system I believe that he will thrive. I am sure that he will have to break out of the mind frame that he is stuck in right now and I also believe that the Jazz have the right team for that. Remember Favors when he first got to the Jazz? Shy, kept to himself, didn't seem to understand his potential. I can see Jones breaking out in the same way.
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Or I'm just an extreme homer.
 
If PJIII can have games where he explodes, then I fail to see why he doesn't every single game. An All-Universe Talent with no motor at all.

If I have to sit through any more of the AK-defense, I'm going to *edited by moderator*
 
orangello said:
I still firmly believe that the current system that he plays in really hurts him as well as Miller. If he played in a more ball movement friendly system I believe that he will thrive. I am sure that he will have to break out of the mind frame that he is stuck in right now and I also believe that the Jazz have the right team for that. Remember Favors when he first got to the Jazz? Shy, kept to himself, didn't seem to understand his potential. I can see Jones breaking out in the same way.
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This is kinda what I think when I choose to disregard his docile/no fire attitude but rather only focus on his potential. He reminds me of Favors - really shy, likable kid oozing with talent.

The only problem at the 3 is can he guard it, right? 'Cause in the Jazz offense I think he can play it fine - spot up outside or drive or post up, he'd be awesome. But can he guard other 3s? Can he guard Durant? ...He's not too slow is he? And he is 6'11" which is kinda awesome.
 
At the 3, he might be slow in the NBA. At the 4, he has a tremendous agility advantage. At the 3, he is a poor shooter and ballhandler. At the 4, he has the tools to be a nightmare matchup. At the 3, he has no post-game. At the 4, he has no post-game.

I see no appreciable reason for him to play the 3 UNLESS you're hiding his horrific rebounding.
 
NUMBERICA said:
At the 3, he might be slow in the NBA. At the 4, he has a tremendous agility advantage. At the 3, he is a poor shooter and ballhandler. At the 4, he has the tools to be a nightmare matchup. At the 3, he has no post-game. At the 4, he has no post-game.

I see no appreciable reason for him to play the 3 UNLESS you're hiding his horrific rebounding.
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What do you think of Miller at the 3?
 
NUMBERICA said:
At the 3, he might be slow in the NBA. At the 4, he has a tremendous agility advantage. At the 3, he is a poor shooter and ballhandler. At the 4, he has the tools to be a nightmare matchup. At the 3, he has no post-game. At the 4, he has no post-game.

I see no appreciable reason for him to play the 3 UNLESS you're hiding his horrific rebounding.
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Who?
 
BENTLEY said:
What do you think of Miller at the 3?
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I know he's a 3. He is too weak to play the 4 and has no power game at all. He's also smooth, but not explosive and that translates better to perimeter play. I don't know how he projects as a player (as much as I hope he's a stud), but the AK-defense works a lot better for Miller since he's still likely recovering from a serious injury, is half as experienced as Pajamas, and actually plays a position of need for the Jazz.

But let's say both players are roughly the same overall talent with the same crap heart, I take Miller over Jones because when it's a wash, you draft for need.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Pajamas III.
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I was gonna say. Mitchell's a ****ing beast. 6'9", the best athlete in this draft (yes, thee best), long, 10.3 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 3.0 blocks, 43.9% from three, 56.7% from the floor, a respectable 73.9% from the line based off of 5.0 free throw attempts per game in < 30 minutes...and oh yeah, this all after having sat the year before because he was academically ineligible. For the U-19 Team USA Team, he led in rebounds per minute in the tourney (ahead of Jonas V) and was second in blocks per minute. He's still finding his game offensively but I like his athleticism and especially his shooting much more than I like MKG's.

Tony Mitchell biatches.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I was gonna say. Mitchell's a ****ing beast. 6'9", the best athlete in this draft (yes, thee best), long, 10.3 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 3.0 blocks, 43.9% from three, 56.7% from the floor, a respectable 73.9% from the line based off of 5.0 free throw attempts per game in < 30 minutes...and oh yeah, this all after having sat the year before because he was academically ineligible. For the U-19 Team USA Team, he led in rebounds per minute in the tourney (ahead of Jonas V) and was second in blocks per minute. He's still finding his game offensively but I like his athleticism and especially his shooting much more than I like MKG's.

Tony Mitchell biatches.
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Nice find, T. I haven't seen him play so I just checked out a quick read @ DX. Says he's both 6' 9" AND says he's 6' 7" in shoes. There's a discrepancy. I love his 3pt% but the read said his range was limited. ? Again, discrepancy. This article leaves me with questions, although I'm plenty intrigued so thanks for mentioning him. Wish I could see him play.
 
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