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Future Four Projections

Hayward 14 pts, 5 rebs, 5 ast, 1.5 steals, .75 blk - 8 mil
Burks 16 pts, 4 rebs, 3 ast, 1.5 steals - 8 mil
Kanter 11 pts, 9 rebs, 1 blk - 8 mil
Favors 17 pts , 10 rebs, 2 blks - 10 mil
 
Gojazz79 said:
Hayward 15 pts, 5 rebs, 5 ast, 2 steals, 1 blk
Burks 22 pts, 4 rebs, 4 ast, 1 steal
Kanter 15 pts, 12 rebs, 1 blk
Favors 20 pts , 10 rebs, 2 blks
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This is pretty close to what I think as well. I think the OP was a little off on the numbers. Burks and Favors have the potential to be max players. And Hayward could get pretty high too. It will be hard to keep them.
 
Favors--Best player on team and star of championship contender
Burks--solid starter/borderline all star
Hayward--solid role player, 6th man candidate
Kanter--starter/solid rotation player, good compliment to Favors.
 
Hayward. 15 Pts. 4 assists 6 rebounds 2 steals
Burks. 16 Pts 3 assists 5 rebounds
Favors. 17 Pts 2 assists 13 rebounds 3 Blk.
Kanter. 10 Pts. 1 assist 13 rebounds 0.5 Blk.

In my opinion Hayward is being used incorrectly. If the jazz continue to use him incorrectly these are the #'s I see him posting. If used correctly these are the #'s I see for Hayward. (18 Pts 8 assists 6 rebounds. 2 steals).

Before the year started I said Hayward would be an Allstar, and thought he'd do that this year. I thought the jazz would use Hayward as the primary ball handler, Harris can bring the ball up, but then Hayward takes over. I thought the jazz would run the pick'n roll with Hayward. The laker game was a good example of this, the jazz were carried by Gordon, he got to the rim on numerous occasions for dunks layups and easy buckets for Favors.

I thought they would use Harris as more of an attacking guard allowing Hayward to dictate the offense. Seeing the way Harris can still get to the rim, and how he seems to have improved his long range shot, this roll for Harris could've worked for him with Hayward being the primary playmaker, and player with the ball in his hands to create for him and others. Hayward shouldn't be used as a traditional sf-sg. He's a slashing playmaking sf, and better shooter off the dribble then catch and shoot player.

Just my two cents.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Hayward. 15 Pts. 4 assists 6 rebounds 2 steals
Burks. 16 Pts 3 assists 5 rebounds
Favors. 17 Pts 2 assists 13 rebounds 3 Blk.
Kanter. 10 Pts. 1 assist 13 rebounds 0.5 Blk.

In my opinion Hayward is being used incorrectly. If the jazz continue to use him incorrectly these are the #'s I see him posting. If used correctly these are the #'s I see for Hayward. (18 Pts 8 assists 6 rebounds. 2 steals).

Before the year started I said Hayward would be an Allstar, and thought he'd do that this year. I thought the jazz would use Hayward as the primary ball handler, Harris can bring the ball up, but then Hayward takes over. I thought the jazz would run the pick'n roll with Hayward. The laker game was a good example of this, the jazz were carried by Gordon, he got to the rim on numerous occasions for dunks layups and easy buckets for Favors.

I thought they would use Harris as more of an attacking guard allowing Hayward to dictate the offense. Seeing the way Harris can still get to the rim, and how he seems to have improved his long range shot, this roll for Harris could've worked for him with Hayward being the primary playmaker, and player with the ball in his hands to create for him and others. Hayward shouldn't be used as a traditional sf-sg. He's a slashing playmaking sf, and better shooter off the dribble then catch and shoot player.

Just my two cents.
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you do realize that there are exactly 2 players averaging more than 13 rebounds per game this year? So it seems highly unlikely for the Jazz to have 2 on their team.
 
gregbroncs said:
you do realize that there are exactly 2 players averaging more than 13 rebounds per game this year? So it seems highly unlikely for the Jazz to have 2 on their team.
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I see both as elite rebounders.

In the last two weeks favors is getting 23 minutes and getting 9.3 rebounds in that time. Add on 12 to 15 more minutes and he's right there.

Kanter was billed as an above average rebounder before the season started, and he hasn't disappointed. His per 48 min. rebounding average has been insane. I think I heard that he either leads all rookies or is second in rookie rebounding playing just 13 minutes a game.
 
I'm not as high on Burks to be a max player - but very good though.
but i am higher on Kanter than most here. If he's allowed to be Shaq Jr (which he's shown) and overpower nearly everyone at 19, as a rookie, he will be a max player. His hand-eye is quite good. He'll get good from 15 maybe 18ft out. He will be the real definition of "beast" when he grows up...

The difficulty for me with while i have my Jazz Glasses on, while i sip the Jazz Kool-aid, while wearing a jazz jersey is seeing how the sky is not the limit for each of these 4. Each of them show flashes of being exceptionally valuable. If they remain together on the same team, their stats won't reflect it as a few of you have noted, but i think we legitimately have 4 chances to have a very good player (none will be leBron, Kobe, but top 10 players -yes.)
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I see both as elite rebounders.

In the last two weeks favors is getting 23 minutes and getting 9.3 rebounds in that time. Add on 12 to 15 more minutes and he's right there.

Kanter was billed as an above average rebounder before the season started, and he hasn't disappointed. His per 48 min. rebounding average has been insane. I think I heard that he either leads all rookies or is second in rookie rebounding playing just 13 minutes a game.
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Hes regressed a little, with players like that one dreadlocked guy from Denver edging him as of late. Cant think of his name for some reason.


EDIT: Kenneth Faried. Jesus.
 
dalamon said:
Hes regressed a little, with players like that one dreadlocked guy from Denver edging him as of late. Cant think of his name for some reason.


EDIT: Kenneth Faried. Jesus.
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One thing to consider with Kanter is he hadn't played in two years before this year, so this was bound to happen at some point, and add to that this is a condensed 66 game schedule with less breaks in-between games.
 
Hayward is a bench player on most teams
Favors has upside but dont alot of player sthat come into league? Eventually you have to produce
Kanter is a poor athlete with average bball iq and that gets exposed in nba
Burks Was a steal at the pick jazz got him at. Kid will be an all star in 5 years.
millsap is a beast but eventually going wanna go to a tema that can make deep playoff runs
Jefferson puts up number sbut how many winning teams has he been on?
Harris is a vet pg id use for trade bait
Watson is a good back up pg
Evans can dunk but man does he need to hit the weight room
Jazz should just try to unload everyone not named favors or burks and start rebuilding and get few years of high lottery picks. I never see hayward being a 50 percent fg 40 percetn from 3 and 90 percent free throw. Hayward is a backup at BEST.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I see both as elite rebounders.

In the last two weeks favors is getting 23 minutes and getting 9.3 rebounds in that time. Add on 12 to 15 more minutes and he's right there.

Kanter was billed as an above average rebounder before the season started, and he hasn't disappointed. His per 48 min. rebounding average has been insane. I think I heard that he either leads all rookies or is second in rookie rebounding playing just 13 minutes a game.
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Even elite rebounders will take rebounds away from each other. No way 2 guys on the same team can do what only 2 players in the entire league are doing now.
 
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