Jazz Playoff Watch

[mct]

Playoffs would be sweet. It would be cool to see Al earn the experience. He might even thrive and increase his trade value. His game is kinda made for the playoffs. Games slow down, defenses tighten up, and at least he can get a decent shot pretty much whenever.

Then again, the 13-14 pick in this draft could probably get us Lillard or Marshall. Those are guys who probably wouldn't be available at 14 in any other year, but it seems like all the top guys are declaring, and at least four of them should have declared last year.

It's going to be pretty easy to make the best of it, whatever happens.

 

[zbone]

first problem with your logic: you are assuming we won't get the GSW pick. i still think we will.

You may think whatever you want. The sad fact is they are 1 win from #7 and do tank hard opposite to teams below them.

second problem with your logic: you're assuming that a 14th pick in the draft (marcus morris, patrick patterson, earl clark, anthony randolph, al thornton, ronnie brewer, rashad mccants, kris humphries, etc.) is going to be such a difference-maker that it's worth more than the invaluable playoff experience we'd be giving favors, hayward, burks, etc.

the 14th pick is not a huge asset. look at that list. not a single impact player on that list. thornton was good for a minute but now is out of the league. patterson is in and out of houston's lineup. brewer is a role player. it took humphries 7-8 years to become the 4th best player on a lottery team.

and you want that over the playoffs -- THAT's mind-boggling.

This year draft is twice as deep as any other year we had lottery pick before past few years. #14 is equal to 7-9 range in an ordinary draft. Which could net us someone like Burks. Moreover, we are not #14 but rather #13 and if we tank hard enough we can get to #10. So yes I will pick #12 pick in 2012 draft over 1st round exit 7 days a week.

 

[theNBAnerd]

You may think whatever you want. The sad fact is they are 1 win from #7 and do tank hard opposite to teams below them.

This year draft is twice as deep as any other year we had lottery pick before past few years. #14 is equal to 7-9 range in an ordinary draft. Which could net us someone like Burks. Moreover, we are not #14 but rather #13 and if we tank hard enough we can get to #10. So yes I will pick #12 pick in 2012 draft over 1st round exit 7 days a week.

then we fundamentally disagree on the value of having guys who have playoff résumés. you know what you get when you put together a team full of late lottery picks that haven't been the playoffs? the golden state warriors. if that's your goal, then you go right ahead and root for tanking. i'll be pulling for the jazz to win tonight.

 

[Beantown]

If Jazz win and Houston loses which is a high possiblity we will be back in good shape.

 

[zbone]

then we fundamentally disagree on the value of having guys who have playoff résumés. you know what you get when you put together a team full of late lottery picks that haven't been the playoffs? the golden state warriors. if that's your goal, then you go right ahead and root for tanking. i'll be pulling for the jazz to win tonight.

Could you please elaborate how exactly Playoffs 2010 experience helped Charlotte Bobcats?

 

[theNBAnerd]

yeah, and denver has to face the same pesky, hungry suns team we just faced. the jazz will have chances to get back in this. if they win...

 

[theNBAnerd]

Could you please elaborate how exactly Playoffs 2010 experience helped Charlotte Bobcats?

completely different situation. that wasn't a team of rising stars. all of the bobcats' best players that year were guys who were either peaking or had already peaked: wallace, jackson, diaw, mohammed. none of those guys were the future of the bobcats, which is why every last one of them plays for a different team now.

the closest thing they had to a "rising star" was raymond felton -- who also no longer plays for that team anymore.

 

[zbone]

completely different situation. that wasn't a team of rising stars. all of the bobcats' best players that year were guys who were either peaking or had already peaked: wallace, jackson, diaw, mohammed. none of those guys were the future of the bobcats, which is why every last one of them plays for a different team now.

the closest thing they had to a "rising star" was raymond felton -- who also no longer plays for that team anymore.

Bucks in Playoffs 2006? Full of youngs, went down to Pistons 4-1 in 1st round. Finished 5th in their division next 3 years. Then fringe playoffs team.

 

[theNBAnerd]

Bucks in Playoffs 2006? Full of youngs, went down to Pistons 4-1 in 1st round. Finished 5th in their division next 3 years. Then fringe playoffs team.

sure, as long as by "full of youngs" you mean andrew bogut. and at-his-peak michael redd was their best player, followed by bobby simmons, bogut and magloire. bogut and redd both had major injuries the following season.

none of the teams you're talking about had the situation the jazz have -- half the roster is 1st and 2nd year players and they're building toward something.

 

[zbone]

sure, as long as by "full of youngs" you mean andrew bogut. and at-his-peak michael redd was their best player, followed by bobby simmons, bogut and magloire. bogut and redd both had major injuries the following season.

none of the teams you're talking about had the situation the jazz have -- half the roster is 1st and 2nd year players and they're building toward something.

Redd and Bogut played 72 and 78 games accordingly. How is that major injuries?
If TJ Ford (22), Bogut (21), Mo Williams (23) playing 3rd, 4th and 6th biggest minutes isn't youth movement just like the Jazz then you are in denial my friend. Add to that they had a lot of players playing big minutes in their mid twenties just like us.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

So the Jazz are 2 games in the loss column behind Denver and Houston with 10 games to play. If we get in the playoffs, it's going to come down to a tie-breaker probably.

 

[Weron Dilliams]

Teams I hate: Lakers, Denver, Houston, Portland. Especially Denver and Houston