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Following potential 2012 draftees

orangello said:
If being a true Jazz fan means that you must always root for the playoffs without any sort of strategy involved then I would say that Jazz fans would be less intelligent than I thought. The reason that I joined this forum was because I was looking for a place to talk basketball with other intelligent people that have a mind for it. I have not been disappointed with some but there are many that I wonder if they actually think about what they are posting before they post.


For those of you who consider the future as much as I do, thank you for your input. You make this board incredibly addicting as well as intellectually stimulating.
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I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we're glad to have your input, too. You're one of the sane ones on this board.
 
@PKM

It really says a lot that you had Davis at #2 before the season and he OVER PERFORMED what you were expecting. Can't wait to see what he does in the NBA.
 
... just want to insert here that our best chance of being great sooner rather than later is by not ****ing up our cap room after next season.

If we are able to pull Lillard/Marshall and Crowder/D.Miller out of this draft + trade Jefferson for more help on the wings WITHOUT taking on significant salary beyond next season, then celebrations are in order.

We don't need to miss the playoffs for this to happen.
 
NAOS said:
... just want to insert here that our best chance of being great sooner rather than later is by not ****ing up our cap room after next season.

If we are able to pull Lillard/Marshall and Crowder/D.Miller out of this draft + trade Jefferson for more help on the wings WITHOUT taking on salary beyond next season, then celebrations are in order.

We don't need to miss the playoffs for this to happen.
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This is a very good point, and one that isn't mentioned enough. I do think that KOC is very aware of this, though, and has put us in a good cap situation looking forward.
 
NAOS said:
... just want to insert here that our best chance of being great sooner rather than later is by not ****ing up our cap room after next season.

If we are able to pull Lillard/Marshall and Crowder/D.Miller out of this draft + trade Jefferson for more help on the wings WITHOUT taking on salary beyond next season, then celebrations are in order.

We don't need to miss the playoffs for this to happen.
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Not disagreeing with anything you said, just trying to understand if you're at all implying missing the playoffs messes with our cap space? I assume you simply meant we shouldn't think our future is entirely predicated on us missing the playoffs, but not sure.
 
PKM said:
I assume you simply meant we shouldn't think our future is entirely predicated on us missing the playoffs, but not sure.
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Yes.

In fact, if we make it to the playoffs and Jefferson and Harris play well, they could up their respective values in such a way that they become worth more than our own pick this year.

In other words, the fans hoping for the playoffs are not off their rockers.
 
I get that. The only fans that I don't get are the ones that take a holier than thou attitude because they are staunch followers of a team they never believe will win anything. That being a fan of a mediocre team is the apex of fandom. And, yes, there are MANY of them. I'm not in tank mode, nor am I praying to make the playoffs. I just want to be looking into the future, making the appropriate moves NOW to get there ... Whatever that may be. If we do that, and fall short, I can live with that.

Just make every effort to win a championship one day ... Rather than early exits for decades.
 
Ok enough of this let's take a look at what might be there in the second round. (I will base this on chad fords top 100 40-60 range)

T Taylor PG 6-3 185 21 - would be worthy of a flier in the second round attitude issues concern me

Myck Kabongo PG 6-1 170 19 - if he comes out and is available here you have to take him and hope he developes.

Scott Machado PG 6-1 180 21 - a lot already said about him

Josh Smith C 6-9 320 19 - jazz love their big fat centers. Has a ton of talent

Andre Roberson SF 6-7 195 20 - he intrigues me burks could tell them a lot.

Alex Young SG 6-6 212 22 - some say he is the next big player from the small conference

Evan Fournier SG 6-7 206 19 - I've seen him higher but if he is on the board you have to take him

Will Barton SG 6-5 165 21 - worthy of a second pick

Marcus Denmon SG 6-3 185 22 - don't know much but not a fan of undersized 2s

Otto Porter SF 6-8 200 18 - don't know anything about him

Kevin Jones PF 6-8 250 22 - already have one of these in millsap

Elijah Johnson PG 6-4 195 - interesting look. I like big pgs

Le'Bryan Nash SF 6-7 230 20 - if he comes out and is here in the second you have to take him

Tomas Satoransky SG 6-7 204 20 - interesting player say he can play the pg also

William Buford SG 6-5 205 23 - not a big fan

Jae Crowder SF 6-6 225 21 - <3 been talked about solid player great 2nd pick

Jeff Withey C 7-0 235 22 - this surprised me would be a great snatch in the second

Rudy Gobert PF 6-11 220 19 - have no idea who this guy is

There are a lot more after too
 
I'll put those in red that I think may have been worthy of a late 1st pick.

Xthren said:
Ok enough of this let's take a look at what might be there in the second round. (I will base this on chad fords top 100 40-60 range)

T Taylor PG 6-3 185 21 - would be worthy of a flier in the second round attitude issues concern me

Myck Kabongo PG 6-1 170 19 - if he comes out and is available here you have to take him and hope he developes.

Scott Machado PG 6-1 180 21 - a lot already said about him

Josh Smith C 6-9 320 19 - jazz love their big fat centers. Has a ton of talent

Andre Roberson SF 6-7 195 20 - he intrigues me burks could tell them a lot.

Alex Young SG 6-6 212 22 - some say he is the next big player from the small conference

Evan Fournier SG 6-7 206 19 - I've seen him higher but if he is on the board you have to take him

Will Barton SG 6-5 165 21 - worthy of a second pick

Marcus Denmon SG 6-3 185 22 - don't know much but not a fan of undersized 2s

Otto Porter SF 6-8 200 18 - don't know anything about him

Kevin Jones PF 6-8 250 22 - already have one of these in millsap

Elijah Johnson PG 6-4 195 - interesting look. I like big pgs

Le'Bryan Nash SF 6-7 230 20 - if he comes out and is here in the second you have to take him

Tomas Satoransky SG 6-7 204 20 - interesting player say he can play the pg also

William Buford SG 6-5 205 23 - not a big fan

Jae Crowder SF 6-6 225 21 - <3 been talked about solid player great 2nd pick

Jeff Withey C 7-0 235 22 - this surprised me would be a great snatch in the second

Rudy Gobert PF 6-11 220 19 - have no idea who this guy is

There are a lot more after too
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Le'Bryan Nash, Kabongo, Will Barton .. those are the most intriguing on the list, but Myck won't come out. Nash should go back as well .. he's got top 10 talent. Barton was missused and has lottery talent.
 
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