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KOC's Method of Negotiation

I am not sure how it would go down, but there is potential that the dollar value would leak out thus giving other teams a baseline whereby they could start from. I think your scenario is highly possible as well, I just think that KOC could stand to be a little more proactive. I think it could have given a better chance for the Jazz to match or secure Matthews than they ended up having. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
YB85 said:
Isn't the guy they drafted at #9 their long term plan? Why tie up Matthews, who is still unproven, when they have a guy they liked so much they took him at #9? Bell is a stop gap. Matthews could have been a long term mistake. The Deacon is the answer. Fast offerings.
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Post of the year nominee.
 
gothapotamus said:
I am not sure how it would go down, but there is potential that the dollar value would leak out thus giving other teams a baseline whereby they could start from. I think your scenario is highly possible as well, I just think that KOC could stand to be a little more proactive. I think it could have given a better chance for the Jazz to match or secure Matthews than they ended up having. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Was he not proactive by issuing the qualifying offer which would give them right to match any offer? Knowing that Wes would most likely explore what was out there no matter what?
 
You offer your priority the minimum ... sure makes him feel wanted. Great negotiation tactic.


Let's face it, guys. You've seen KOC giving interviews. He has zero people skills. He couldn't negotiate his way out of a speeding ticket. That's why he uses this tactic.
 
They didn't really offer him anything. They extended what they had to in order to retain his rights.

Again, taking the fact that Portland are a bunch of stupid tossers out of the equation, the Jazz played their hand 100% correctly on this one.
 
So it goes in the NBA. You can't win them all. KOC worked his *** off this offseason and pulled the Jazz out of the potential cellar into contention again. He did everything the fans wanted. The Wesley situation was unfortunate, but we move on with the team we've got. Raja is no slouch and bring almost everything Matthews did, and veteran experience and leadership. I think we should let this go and thank the FO and the Millers for giving the fans another competitive team to root for. We just saw the Jazz org. do something it has never really done before. Savor the moment.
 
I don't think KOC is a complete buffoon. I do think that like write4u said, "you offer your priority the minimum..."? If he was the priority, why not be more proactive than the QO? There wasn't much that demonstrated that Wes was indeed the "priority 1a" that KOC said. I think the team is fine and it won't have a massively adverse effect on the Jazz. But I think there is a general consensus that Wes is preferred to Raja... just not at their respective price tags. Sure makes you wonder if the Jazz had offered Raja's size contract to Wes, what the outcome woulda been. Oh well.... Let's RING THE BELL
 
I agree that getting Bell is a big plus. So, I'm fine with that. I'm talking about another matter. Do we want to go through this every year with our players when it comes time to negotiate contracts? We need to take a different approach. We need to sell them why we want them. I don't think KOC does that. He just lets the money talk. If we were a big market team, then that might be okay. But we're Utah. We need a different approach. What has happened with Millsap and Matthews is proof of this.
 
The minimum offer ensures you have the right to match. Not a real offer. It shows interest. I'm sure KOC told Matthews he wanted him back but it would have to work for both sides.
 
It seems as though wrong4u and others aren't interested in facts...

From Ross Siler of the Tribune via Tweeter:
Wesley Matthews charges Jazz never made him an offer, but team was told from beginning it would take max midlevel to re-sign him. Jazz wanted to talk about three- and four-year contract options. Why would they start bidding at the ceiling of what could be offered? So they told Wes that if he wanted max midlevel, he'd have to go out and get it and they'd decide about matching.
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Kover got 5M
Lowery got 8M
Outlaw got 7M
Morrow got 4M
Salmons got 8M
Redick got 6Mish

Wes wasn't drastically lower than those guys. Be realistic here. He wasn't going to sign for 2M a year just to stay on the Jazz.
 
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