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Deron is coming back to Utah.

Deron is NOT coming back to Utah. I mean....who likes being traded and finding out about it on espn in the weight room?
 
This team has a playoff game in 6 hours. Who gives a flying **** about Deron Williams? Dude is watching from his couch.
 
When Deron opts out, I'm willing to bet that the Millers/KOC don't even pick up that phone. Once again, sooo many Jazz fans throw out reasons as to why Deron will never play for the Jazz again while forgetting to mention the biggest reason: He'll never be asked to play for the Jazz again. Hard to sign with a team when they're not offering you a contract.
 
If KOC doesn't call, he should lose his job. If Miller tells him not to call, the Jazz are screwed. Was Deron perfect? Nope. Is he an elite player who liked living in Utah and could come back? Maybe. You have to call him. As good as Nash or Dragic would be, Deron is better.

And screw trust with other GM's. Having Deron sign in Utah as a FA, could be the first step in changing the perception of Utah to other free agents.
 
Anyone else find it funny that he said he will decide by July 6? It almost seems like he already knows where he is going.

Another thing, with the boos he got last year at the ESA, I bet if he came back, he would receive one of the loudest ovations his first game.
 
green said:
If KOC doesn't call, he should lose his job. If Miller tells him not to call, the Jazz are screwed. Was Deron perfect? Nope. Is he an elite player who liked living in Utah and could come back? Maybe. You have to call him. As good as Nash or Dragic would be, Deron is better.

And screw trust with other GM's. Having Deron sign in Utah as a FA, could be the first step in changing the perception of Utah to other free agents.
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Maybe, just maybe, KOC is smart enough to realize he doesn't need to pay max money to a tempermental PG. Especially when he has built up a young corps of bigs. You win championships with bigs, not with PG's. As great as Steve Nash has been, he's never won a thing. Jason Kidd was never able to win a ring until he was on a team in which he wasn't the focal point and the bigs were.

Don't get me wrong, Deron on this team would be deadly. The problem is, Deron wants max money. Tha'ts not going to work for Utah. Bringing in Deron at max money eventually means saying goodbye to some key pieces on this team that we are currently excited about. No thanks.
 
I think D Will coming back would be great, but it's not going to happen. I agree that KOC is not doing his job if he doesn't call, but sheesh, what an awkward conversation that would be! Imo, the trade was handled extremely poorly. Deron is going to Dallas, most likely.

Go for Nash. Point guards don't win championships, but point guards on teams with front lines like ours? Just maybe...
 
jazzman12 said:
Maybe, just maybe, KOC is smart enough to realize he doesn't need to pay max money to a tempermental PG. Especially when he has built up a young corps of bigs. You win championships with bigs, not with PG's. As great as Steve Nash has been, he's never won a thing. Jason Kidd was never able to win a ring until he was on a team in which he wasn't the focal point and the bigs were.

Don't get me wrong, Deron on this team would be deadly. The problem is, Deron wants max money. Tha'ts not going to work for Utah. Bringing in Deron at max money eventually means saying goodbye to some key pieces on this team that we are currently excited about. No thanks.
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Wow.. really good post. Repped.

I agree on the max money thing. I believe if KOC does his job properly Jefferson & Millsap could be signed for a combined amount similar to a max. contract going forward (i.e., around $8-$9m each). Then he'll have enough money left to lock up Hayward and Favors going forward.

Is Deron worth Millsap AND Jefferson combined?!?! He's good, but not that good.
 
jazzman12 said:
Maybe, just maybe, KOC is smart enough to realize he doesn't need to pay max money to a tempermental PG. Especially when he has built up a young corps of bigs. You win championships with bigs, not with PG's. As great as Steve Nash has been, he's never won a thing. Jason Kidd was never able to win a ring until he was on a team in which he wasn't the focal point and the bigs were.

Don't get me wrong, Deron on this team would be deadly. The problem is, Deron wants max money. Tha'ts not going to work for Utah. Bringing in Deron at max money eventually means saying goodbye to some key pieces on this team that we are currently excited about. No thanks.
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You win with defense and elite guard play AND bigs. Every champion has played outstanding defense, had elite guards and dominate big men. The Jazz have potential with their bigs, Deron gives them an elite guard, and they have potential for defense. Look at ths lineup:

Deron - elite pg. one of the best pg defenders out there
Hayward - a very, very good defender
Carrol - good defender. Good 3 pt shooter
Jefferson - elite post scorer
Favors - one of the best big man defenders

That team has a shot. Without deron? You get this mess we are watching now.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Wow.. really good post. Repped.

I agree on the max money thing. I believe if KOC does his job properly Jefferson & Millsap could be signed for a combined amount similar to a max. contract going forward (i.e., around $8-$9m each). Then he'll have enough money left to lock up Hayward and Favors going forward.

Is Deron worth Millsap AND Jefferson combined?!?! He's good, but not that good.
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Yes, Deron is worth Jefferson and Millsap. Deron took us to a WCF. Jefferson and Millsap lost to Charlotte twice and barely made the playoffs. HUGE difference.
 
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